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David Radulovich
00:00Hey guys, welcome to the fourth episode of The Journey podcast inside of season or series one, I just want to remind everybody that this is actually the audio version of a YouTube Live, formal podcast. So there is educational content in here, I prepared it and I went through notes. And I presented all this information. So it's not just a little hangout that's recorded with released on audio only there, this is an educational episode. The topics of this episode are basically around the second half of what I wanted to get to in episode three, but decided that it would have made a five hour podcast. So I decided to split it up. Essentially, all of the different topics that I'm covering in this episode have to do with taking the learned information like taking the stuff that we talked about in episode three, which was the neurological approach to learning optimizing practice with a very specific approach in terms of your conscious attention. So it takes took all of that information. And it's this episode is going over how to implement that into building a practice routine and plan so that you can take advantage of that in the best way possible. And get it to where your practice is incredibly efficient. And basically shortcutting the path towards success. But the basically, the actual prepared topics in here, are, are all focused around answering the following question. Questions, I should say, the first one, and they all fall under creating a perfect practice plan. The first one is how do I structure the perfect black practice plan? It goes through and details everything out with that. The next question that I cover in this episode is basically what information do I use to build out a plot a practice plan, then I get into how we go about finding that information. And then I talk about what you should specifically focus on during a practice session and how to pick what to plan out. The focus of that is horrible English. Basically, how to determine what the focus should be for a planned practice session, not just, you know, I want to practice this thing for the rest of the year. But literally breaking it down into individual practice sessions, how do you determine and pick what you want to focus on for that day. And then I also go into all of the different types of shooting practice, which is a really, really interesting part of this podcast, basically give all the different names of styles of practices. So just to give you a little teaser on it, you know, shooting practice isn't just going to go shoot, I have multiple different types of practicing, that you can do all revolved around a different complete structure, and focusing on different things. And the learning physical movement is only basically two of these different practice types. And I believe there are 11 different practice types of talk about. And then after I talk about what each one is, what the name of them and then defining what they are, I then go into at the end, giving you an example of every single different type of practice. So literally, I give you a laid out practice plan for every single type of practice that you would want to do if you say you wanted to do every single one of these types of practices in order, you can just follow what I talked about at the end. And and you would be able to do it. The thing to note here, I want to say that because this is a YouTube Live is a little bit more informal. You'll see there's times where I like stopped to answer questions, and we get off topic a little bit answering those questions. But that's because it's a YouTube Live with interactive engagement. And just to be able to make it to where if you're listening audio, only that you immediately get into the meat of this podcast. I actually cut the podcast in half at the point where I got into the detailed stuff, and I put it in the beginning of this episode, so it's going to be kind of weird, because in the middle of this episode, it'll sound like the whole episode is ending. But then it just goes all the way into the beginning of what this YouTube Live episode was. Which is I actually taking user submitted practice plans that you guys sent in, in emails or on my website. And I, I picked a couple of them. And I went into them in detail because they're all examples of practice routines, number one that were really good, but also that had common mistakes and common experiences that we could all learn from. So it's valuable to get to that part of the podcast and listen through there. I will say that because this is a YouTube Live episode, you know, forced into audio only, yes, it is a little weird to listen to audio only. But I would completely recommend to just not listen to this one on a podcast app or anything, I would definitely recommend listening to it. Or actually, I should say watching it on YouTube, because they you would be you will be able to see the questions that get brought up live based off of the information that I'm talking about. I also in this episode, use a lot of on screen graphics. So I pull up the notes that people sent me and I go through and I talk about it, I actually show on the screen, PDF files of different practice routines. And I do a bunch of other stuff. So it would be worth your time to if you're going to take the time to listen to this, just take the time to watch it. Instead, it'll be you'll get more out of it, it's more valuable. And then that leads me to basically the fact that I'm going to plug the YouTube channel for a little bit right now, which is that if you aren't listening to this or watching it on YouTube, take the time to go over and subscribe to the YouTube channel. Because we do sometimes two live podcast episodes on there a week at an at a minimum one. So basically, every time that I release a recorded episode, that I only have one YouTube live on a Wednesday night, but every other week, I have two YouTube Live podcasts during that week on a Monday and Wednesday. And it's a whole lot of fun. And you'll probably hear that if you're watching that if you're listening to this audio only. So without further ado, I'll just let this get into the second half of the episode for for series one. And we will be good to go. Cool. Thank you guys. The Okay, so I think at this point, questions have kind of died down. Let's move on to the first topic that I want to get to. Which is this, okay, mom did a little transfer here. New screen.
David Radulovich
08:02Okay, so this is going to be the first topic. And it's getting to be a long podcast. So I guess I'm just gonna keep going. But I do have a couple of different topics I want to talk about this is more of the prepared stuff for this episode. And the I know, I had like a title up there that said episode questions. But that does not mean that as I talk through this and explain this, that I don't want you to answer it, ask questions. So please feel free to type a question out in the middle of me explaining something. And I'm loving all the positive energy here with my with my communication. Thank you guys. So anyways, we'll get into it. So the first thing that we're going to do is just basically how to structure a practice. I gave those first two examples in the beginning of this episode. And I think those are really, really great examples of how to structure a practice, they have. They have like external stimuli notes in terms of the temperature, the weather, the time of day that they planned on going, how they feel, their nutrition, their sleep, all that kind of stuff. It gives them the background information. Not only does it take note on it, but it also they also had plans to specifically make sure that those things are within certain parameters. So you want to set it up with that. And they had a specific goal in the practice that they were going to try to learn or work on a very boiled down focus. Not a huge overarching thing. It's very specific, very minimalistic. Basically it's simple. Five down to the point where it's, you can't reduce any complexity to the topic that they're focusing on. So, you know, one is specifically, the feeling of the movement in the front hand, in a certain style of mount on a certain type of target. That's and how that hand brings the gun into the mountain to finish it fantastic, one specific motor control skill that they're working on for the practice, and scheduled the whole thing out on that that's great. The, so they have a specific goal that they want to focus on, they have a specific thing that they have decided to assign their, their sensory perception to. So that would be the very specific feeling in that hand as it goes through that movement. Or it would be the the specific feeling in the rotation as they're making the move on those birds. Whatever it is, remember, you want those three components to be included in your practice, you want your sensory perception. So what are you going to be consciously paying attention to? Like, what are you specifically going to try to feel one thing that you're going to feel they have the physical movement, which is, this is my goal for the practice to learn XYZ. And then they have that proprioceptive underlying the underlying theme of proprioceptive movement to allow that to happen through feeling but not consciously driven on really anything other than the specific goal of their practice. So that's like the setup. On top of that, all of those practice plans, not only had the goal, the sensory perception, the underlying information, but they also had structure they had, I'm going to go and shoot two rounds, or two sets of 25 on high house two on the skeet field and take a break in between. Or they had I'm going to go shoot certain amount of targets off of from one position off of 100 foot tower crossing right to left trying to break it at a specific point that, and then yeah, so they have that structure built in, to allow them to follow that plan. And in the process of following that plan, be continuously bouncing, experienced feedback. And using self awareness off of what happens after they shot. So they also basically included a post shot awareness or post shot analysis, after every time they shoot the shot. They reference how they experienced it through the filter that they've already consciously picked through their sensory perception. So they take the shot. And then they think, how did it feel? How did my front hand feel? Did it feel like what my goal is, which is for it to feel like x, y, z? Yes or no? Okay. No, let me do it again, and try to correct it, that type of thing. So that's the structure that we want. And basically, what we do want to make sure is that we understand that it doesn't matter what the goal is, and it doesn't matter what the whatever you're assigning that sensory perception to it. And it also doesn't matter what your structure is, it just matters that you have those things. And so putting together good, you know, practice and what what to specifically focus on for good practice, all relies on whatever you decide. But making sure that you build structure around it, because without that structure, you won't have the physical self awareness. And it basically is wasted time because you're going to go shoot without any guidance of what to think about what to try to do, what to try to relive through visualization or self awareness or a post shot analysis. And so you're just going to be shooting. So basically all of those practice plans are not just shooting. The taking that into account and I'm going to that question of how do I structure a practice plan is going to be better answered as I progressed through all this content? But I do want to bring back something that I brought up in the most recently, Rick Recorded episode on optimizing practice. So we want to structure our practice starting off with lower levels of dopamine. The
David Radulovich
15:18you know, like, this is actually an interesting topic. If you're somebody that smokes, or like does vapes or you know, chews, tobacco, or does you know what I mean anything like that any type of drug that increases dopamine, not that I'm judging you for anything. But it actually, interestingly enough, would prove to be neurologically beneficial not to do that very much prior to your practice. The only thing to combat that would be that nicotine by itself actually does help improve focus, but by itself. So but you know, you want to make sure that you don't have a huge, you don't have high levels of dopamine going into the structure practice. You want to expect and plan for, like high volumes of failures during the practice session, because that in itself increases your neuroplasticity, which allows you to basically cue your awareness to that failure and make adjustments and changes based off of that information that you get, if you're going to practice. And, number one, you don't expect to either miss a lot, or not be able to execute what you're trying to learn perfectly every time. Like, if you think you're gonna have a high level of success, when you don't, it will be frustrating. And it'll be hard to have the self discipline not to abandon that plan and structure and then just try to give yourself a little bit of dopamine by breaking targets. And that's that is a big backtrack in the work and effort that you put in to your practice. I also want to say that approaching practice this way, is mostly beneficial for learning physical movement. So if you're trying to practice your routine, you don't need failure in your routine. Meaning like if you're trying to get better at at your pre shot routine, or if you're trying to get better at reading targets, you don't, you don't need to set up a practice that gets you to fail a bunch of times, because the neurology of this is all built around making increasing neuroplasticity to segment how your brain responds to dopamine. So that it catalogs the good signal firings of to control the muscles and saves the sequences that resulted in a good result and deletes the sequences that resulted in a bad result. And those sequences are just, you know, electronic electric signals sent from the upper motor neurons to the lower motor neurons to control your muscles. So if like practicing a routine has no muscular involvement in terms of motor control skills, so you don't have to worry about that. But this is if you're trying to get better at moving the shotgun or get better at moving your eyes. The so going back to the whole, you know expecting high high levels of failure, that's going to draw your attention to that specifically, poorly executed movement, that's going to be good, because that conscious, you know cue or red flag that goes up like whoa, this wasn't good. That is the specifically that is the thing that helps your brain catalog the good or bad movements. And you because you want to allow yourself to have high levels of like a big dopamine spike when you do the thing correctly. So in both of those practice plans that I brought up in the earlier part of this episode, note how they specifically even wrote down on the paper that they allowed themselves to feel good about what they did. In fact, I can't remember it was the first or the second example that I showed, showed, shown whatever I don't know. I don't know if it was the first or second example. But in one of them it literally said I practice positive self talk or what Ever to allow myself to experience the dopamine based off of what I did, that's actually important. When you do the thing that you're wanting to do correctly, recognize that don't move on, celebrate it get excited, however you deal with that, but do it. The going back to a little bit of the stuff I just talked about, we might need to make sure that we have that consciously decided area of focus or awareness. That's, that's that sensory perception thing to pre determine what you want to be focusing on in the middle of the shot physically in your body. The as a side note on that, it does not matter what specific thing you decide to pay attention on, as long as it's something involved in the specific motor control of whatever physical movement that you're trying to learn. So, for example, if you're trying to learn a fee task mount, and that's the goal for the practice is to get more efficient at your feet task mount, what types of physical movements are involved in the fee task mount? Well, the specific way that your hands move the specific placement of the gun in relation to your body, the specific speed at which the front and backhand are probably different based off of the fact that the gun has to pivot a little bit because there's a 25 centimeter draw length, whatever it is, you can go on and on, it doesn't matter what thing you're consciously paying attention to, as long as that thing is a motor control movement within the physical mechanic that you're trying to learn. And whenever you decide to pay attention on that thing, or to that thing, don't change what you're paying attention to keep it consistent. You want to have a lot of repeated repetitions, in that within that same area of focus, so that you catalog the subtle differences of each repetition through your perceived experience. So that example of the skeet field, you know, two sets of 25 back to back, you know, on the exact same thing, you that's what you want, if everybody can shoot more or less in practice, based off how much money they can afford to spend on shells, how much time they have everything like that. But you want to, you know, basically put it this way, if you're trying to relearn or learn a physical movement of the gun, the more that you shoot in a certain amount of time, the better. And the more that you segment, that whole practice session on less and less different things, preferably one specific thing, the better. Immediately after your practice session, and before any external stimuli happens that gets you cognitively thinking about anything. It's beneficial to close your eyes and process or visualize and as much sensory detail as possible. Everything that happened Well, that's exactly what was done in both of those examples that I read. When you do that, I'm just reading some notes I have here, your brain will replay and keep the motor sequence of movements that were associated with the high levels of dopamine, and it will eliminate the motor sequence of movements that was associated with the low levels of dopamine. This is why it's important to have low levels of dopamine at the start. So that there's a greater difference in the levels of dopamine between the good and the bad of the thing that you're trying to learn. After your practice, don't focus on anything that requires high levels of conscious attention for the rest of the day, or at least until you can process your training session. Through that type of post process visualization, sleep or an app. Make sure you get good sleep both before and after. And the one thing that I would know is that the better that you are, the more proficient that you are in shooting, the more that you will have the ability to change focus sets in your practice. So when you're first starting out and you're trying to learn a new thing, or if you feel like you're not that mechanically advanced yet in your physical movement.
David Radulovich
24:50You should only be focusing on one thing per practice. But as you get better and more skilled and shooting you can you can allow yourself have to kind of explore around in your sensory perception and goals during your practice, because basically, the efficiency of the good and bad ratio of saved motor sequence movements will be a higher ratio of good than bad. So you don't have that much to unlearn. And most of your movement will be controlled by those central pattern generators, which means that it's non conscious and proprioceptive already, whereas if you're newer, not very much of your movement, literally not even your mount is non conscious and proprioceptive. So it's very important that you just singularly focus on one thing. The Okay, so any questions on that? I'm gonna read through some of these, and then they'll go on to the next topic. Let's see. Three plus hours is average, this is going to be actually, this might not be that much longer. Let's see her way more control than I do. On Bella starts complaining, we will have a true perception of time. is so true? Yeah, when she gets up, it's like I had that time to go, then I know. Ron says taking videos helps to see what you're trying to correct. 100% Definitely, if you can record yourself practicing. And in in between those little breaks that you take during that practice session, while continuing to focus on the same thing, you can watch those videos, it allows for a good little bit of time in between also, you you know, you don't want to melt your gun. Okay, I'm gonna move on to the next topic, actually. And we'll we'll move. Okay, so current topic building out a practice plan.
David Radulovich
27:14And as I'm answering this, talking about this a little bit, this is a shorter session section, I'll pay attention to the to the chat, see if anybody has any questions on what I just covered. But so building out a practice plan, like how do you basically, under the YouTube video, this response or relates to the question I said, what information do I use to build out a practice plan? So you can kind of take this a couple of ways. But basically, you want to, it's a very open ended question. But it's important to understand from what avenues of information or I don't really know how to say, the sentence that I'm trying to think of, basically, it's important to understand the different sources of information that we can use to get the information. There we go. I like that when that one came to me quick. So I'm just gonna, I have four different things that I have here of where you can get information from. And I'm going to talk a little bit about each one. So the first one is going to be consult with your coach or instructor. Basically, what you're going to be doing is saying like, Hey, what should I like? What data do you have on me that you think I need to focus on? Essentially, a filter question for that would be, what is my lowest hanging fruit right now? What is the thing that I can put with equal amount of effort into all the things that I can improve on? What would be the one thing I can focus on? That gives me the biggest amount of improvement? That would be a great question for the person that you're, you're either getting instruction from or who is your coach? And, and, you know, I get that question a lot. And it's a great thing to help have external verification that, you know, you can align it basically, what I would recommend you do is before you ask that question, write down what you think their answer will be, and then see if it aligns that gives you some information about yourself as well. Next thing is, as Ron said, use videos of yourself shooting. So have a friend or squadmate record you in a tournament or record yourself in a practice. And here's the interesting aspect of this. compare that against videos of professional shooters to highlight the differences in movement. So if you have a coach who happens to be a professional shooter, or there's somebody that you're trying to learn to shoot like that, or if you don't have an answer to either of those two questions, and you're like, Well, I'm listening to this podcast, I might as well just do it the way you do it. Any one of us, you can just google search our name, or go on YouTube and search our name, and there are so many videos of of those guys shooting. And, and you can look at, you know, take a video of you and find a video of them. And compare and contrast the differences and movement, things that you're going to want to look for are things you know, that look at, look at how in control and relax that you look compared to them. Look at where your movement is coming from, look at if there's any wasted movement, and look at the urgency in which it seems to be that you or them are making your movement with the bird compare and contrast those things, and try to learn the differences. And that is a great way to filter how it should feel physically and emotionally to make good movement. And that's what you can attach that sensory perception to in your practice. Another great thing to do is journaling, whether that be writing things down doing voice memos, anything like that, but the types of things that you're going to want to journal are literally like stream of consciousness experience. So say you go to a tournament journal, how the tournament went, journal, the decisions that you made, journal, how you felt emotionally journal, what mechanical moves or target presentations that you felt like you didn't do very well. And, and then you can use that information to go back on and look at and say, Okay, well, I, you know, I seem to see a trend on Shondells. Don't just stop that analysis right there and say I need to go practice Shondells. Think about what it feels like for you to shoot that type of target. And then think about, okay, what could possibly be going wrong? What could I possibly be doing wrong in my movement here, let me see if I can go and practice that thing, not just that target. You can combine all of these. So like, you could take a video of us shooting a shondo find a video of somebody else that is really, really mechanically advanced shooting a chandelle compare the two movements, a lot of people have videos out for instruction, you can reference that, ask your coach or instructor what I should, what should I be doing mechanically? And how should it feel to shoot that specific target, and then go out and create a plan based off of that. And then the last thing is you can you need to use, like collected data and information on how good you are at doing specific mechanics, or in certain areas of the game. And in which one of those categories that you need improvement and make that objective information, don't just decide, I'm not good at XYZ. So that's I'm gonna go focus on and so you need to make it objective because a lot of us are always blind to our own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to gaming, especially a game that if done correctly, is done non consciously. How do we know? So? In that kind of gets into, you know, the, basically the next question, which is how can I get all of that information? I'm gonna just so that it helps people watching this later I just changed the the topic, title thing. So anyways, basically, the only topic that I just covered there in terms of, you know, what information do I use to help build a plan, the only one of those four that really needs to be answered that you can really apply the question of how how can I get that information will be that last one which is like you know, your efficiency and specific categories of things. And being able to do that objectively and not subjectively. And because, you know, like, how do I get the information from consulting with a coach you call them but if it's me, you don't call it No, do you know the videos? That's simple journaling, it's simple. You know, the journaling, you kind of could you kind of could, you know, apply that question to, but basically, it would only be around like, how do I remember all the things and what do I include in my journal. My answer that question would be if you're journaling in writing a journal or doing voice memos, or just taking bullet point notes literally include as much as you possibly can. Just like those examples I had earlier on in this episode, include the time that you were shooting the the station, you started on the weather, how much you slept, what you ate, when you ate, what you did the day before the emotions you were experiencing how you felt like your eyes were working, what your body felt like, did you feel sore from working out? Did you feel really calm and relaxed? Do you feel jittery from too much caffeine, whatever, just literally include as much that take, take the approach of the more, the better. Obviously, with certain people's personalities, you're going to, you know, have a different approach to that like that might seem over whelming ly too much stuff to do to you. And if it does, that's fine. But you can take the approach idea of just talking into my phone on the way home and translating that into a transcript with an app. So, but if you know, put as much effort into it that aligns with what you want out of it, put it that way. But as far as that last thing of the your efficiency and the different mechanics and stuff. For me personally, the easiest and best tool to use for that is that sheet analysis sheet because it just asked me very simple questions, and then runs it all through a bunch of formulas and objective reasoning, and tells me what I'm not doing well. And so I like to use that a lot to help me focus and decide what I want to use what I want to schedule and build a practice around.
David Radulovich
37:01And, you know, you can also use like, your own self awareness in practice or tournaments. So if you in practice, feel like you're unable to do something, or you feel just an unknown weird thing, while you're trying to do something, you know, highlight that and explore it a little bit. But as far as that shoot analysis, shoot analysis sheet goes, I don't, I really am actually trying to make this as generically focused as possible. And I'm not trying to force you to if, if you're trying to do this, only use the tools that I have. But I don't really know anybody else that has something that can do that same type of thing for you. So I can only recommend that sheet analysis sheet that I have. It's that's one of the reasons why I make it free. It doesn't cost anything but your own time. But if any of you listening right now, or if you're listening later, after this is published, and you know of some other analysis tool that somebody else has, that can objectively analyze the current state of your game, put it in the comments of the video, please, because that's a great thing tool for people to know about. But when I run, that, when I run that shoot analysis sheet on myself, I look for commonalities, from analysis sheet to analysis sheet and things that are not improving. I also look at trends and themes between different categories to see if I can make assumptions and deduce like what is influencing what so like an example would be, you can look at the categories and subcategories on that shoot analysis sheet and look at the summaries of them. And you might be able to find that, you know, there are three different categories that you're performing below par on. And if you critically analyze what those topics are, you may be able to find like some like, what is the word? Gas, dang, you might be able to find like, some form of basically that they're interconnected in what the problem is. And if you follow the trail of what is happening and where your scores are low in each question, you might be able to find an underlying problem that doesn't get fully pulled out of in just run meaning and shoot analysis sheet. And that's really, really valuable. Unfortunately, I can't really tell you how to do that. Because every time you run a shoot analysis sheet, it's going to be different. So there's no formula for that, which is why I don't have that built into a formula that just tells you the answer to that. For now, the only way that I know how to communicate that to you individualistically is if you book a call with me, which, again, sounds like I'm trying to get you to spend money with me. But I can, if you if you don't want to pay for that, if you book, you can just book a 15 minute call after you shoot, do a shoot analysis sheet. And don't expect me to tell you the answers in 15 minutes, but I can say, hey, look, you know, I looked at your sheet, you have these categories that are all related. And your issue is XYZ, I won't have time to go into, you know, the explanation of how to do that, and, or how to fix it and build a plan around it, like I couldn't have in an actual video call. But you know, with 15 minutes of time, I can put you easily on the right track if you can't figure it out yourself. So yeah, that's what I have on that. What I'm going to do, though, is I didn't, I was trying to, I was trying to use a shoot analysis sheet on myself for a tournament. And I wanted to actually put use that as part of this episode on here and show you guys what I meant by everything that I just explained by by analyzing my own shoot analysis sheet, and then building my own practice plan from it. Only problem is, I haven't shot a tournament since October. And so I don't have a way to really do that yet. The I could do that with somebody else's analysis sheet on here, I would like to just do that with mine. Because the information, it's, it's, here's the difference, if I do it from my own self, I will have all of the experienced information. As opposed to if I do that, for somebody else live on here. I wasn't there living that experience as them and I won't have all of the information that they have. That is information that I would pull out of them in a video call to help me narrow down what my suggestions would be and make assumptions for what the problems are. But I couldn't do that on a live video here with just chat, it would take too long. So I wanted to do it with myself. And I'm basically what we can plan for in the future is that in about a week or two, I am going to be able to have a tournament round under my belt and I will do it then in its own separate live video or I might not even waste time on a live and just submit it and so you guys will be able to see how I actually truly go through and break down the chute analysis sheet and build a practice plan based off of that because it's really really in depth detailed and it's highly specifically focused and helps a lot. Okay, so Austin has a question. He says, Would you recommend doing a sheet every two weeks monthly after or after each practice? I recommend doing a shoot analysis sheet after after every tournament round. So like if you're at a tournament and you shoot super sporting in the morning, prelim in the afternoon and the main event and then or fee task whatever in the in the later afternoon. I would be doing three shoot analysis sheets that day. But really, you can do it as much as you want. And you can even do it on practice too. I know Ron here at Ron Schwartz as sent a couple analysis sheets to me. I was actually going to be you I was wanting to use some of them in this episode. But again, weird formatting issue with the videos and stuff like and it wouldn't load on my computer. It all works on my desktop computer so I can do it there. It's just this laptop is annoying. Let's see I don't what are they? Okay, there's no questions on that. So I guess we're gonna go into the next topic. Moving on
David Radulovich
44:57this is basically what should I specifically for because my practice session on I guess I kind of got ahead of myself and basically answered that question in the last one. But just to recap, you want to specifically focus on that, like, there's no perfect answer for that, because every time is going to be different, and it's all going to be related and relative to what you're currently experiencing. As a competitive shooter, or a non competitive shooter, it's all going to be based off of what your goals are, and everything should align and be interconnected in that way. So, you know, it's very easy to be able to say, if you did all of the goal assignment stuff from earlier on, in the Journey podcast, and you have laid out your goals for this year, and you are doing shoot analysis sheets, then it would be very easy to look at, you know, am I on track with my, with my stepping stone goals? And my process goals? Am I following them? And am I making progress towards those end of the road product goals. And if you are and your your running, should analysis sheets, and it and just very simply interpreting them by looking at what the what categories, you have the biggest amount of approvement available to you, and then you would be able to say, Okay, well, are the which of these categories is has the biggest influence on my inability to get towards this end goal, I want to focus on that, and read through in depth about all the data in that analysis sheet, and then build a plan based off of that. So, you know, the a lot of people think that practice, you know, and there's so many podcasts that, you know, you get the question of, you know, how should I practice shooting? And the best answer for that is you should, the best way for you to practice is to pay attention to you. And every time you go out to practice, pick one thing that specifically hurting you the most in terms of being able to get to your goals, and then build a practice creatively around that. And that's what you focus on. But that's a very, that's a short topic answer. But it's one, you know, that is important to answer. Because, you know, too many people just think practicing is about going out and shooting Of course. Okay, so next topic. And this is the second last topic. So we're almost done. Thank you guys for hanging in with me. But this is, I think, probably the two really fun topics to finish up on. So this one is basically, as the title says the different types of practice. The what I'm going to do here is I'm just going to basically list out the different types of practice that we can have in shooting. I guess explain them a little bit if they're, if they need to be clarified. And so if they do need to be clarified, let me know in the chat. And then the last topic is going to basically be giving an example of each type of practice. So let me see how many types I have. 1-234-567-8910 10 We have a lot of different types of practice. So first category that of practice, which think of this as like overarching themes that you can pull a specific thing to focus on during a practice out of each one of these categories, I'm about to say is something that has a lot of stuff inside of it, but all revolve around this main topic. And that would be what your practice is focused on. So the first one, the most obvious one of them all is your physical mechanics. So going out and going to go practice your physical ability to move the gun. Pretty simple. I'm sure that a lot of you can think about ways to practice that. But that can be you know, pushed through the filter of body mechanics, methods, efficiency and movement, anything like that, but just think of it anything inside your body and how you're controlling it. The next type of practice is not in any specific order, but visual mechanics. So this is one that I Think I mean look, I would say this is closer towards the end of the spectrum of the different types of practice that people seem to probably never even think about. But as in depth as you can practice your technique, your physical movement, you, you can spend an equal amount of time and you should, on your ocular movement. The mechanical approach of and planning of how you use your eyes, completely determines your ability to move if your eyes are the driver of your body when it comes to this game. And if you're using, if you have poor visual mechanics, you will have poor vision of physical mechanics. So you can basically hold it to be fact that as much as you practice your physical mechanics, you should practice using your eyes. Again, I'm going to talk about an example of these things in the next topic. So don't worry, I'm not skipping over it. The next type of practice is routine based practice. So that would be like isolating a specific routine that you use, whether it be a pre shot routine, a post shot, routine, event routine, anything like that, and building a practice around that. Which is an interesting thing a lot. That type of practice revolves, involves a lot of testing and a lot of experimentation, and a lot of note taking. But basically, it's your, you're trying to create a more efficient or more effective routine and any one of the routines that are important. The next one is one that I would bet you most people never even think about at all. And I because of that I couldn't really think of a good name for it. It's just something that I like to try to tell people to do in lessons and I practice myself. And I think it's kind of uniquely fun, but I just call it problem solving practice. And I'm going to let you guys sit on what you think that is until I get to it in the next topic. But problem solving practice. Another type of practice is tournament simulation. So like you're basically rehearsing a tournament in every way possible, or specifically isolating one thing in a tournament that you want to practice. Next topic would be Oh, we got a question. Damon says we could implement this in the youth clinic we are we have coming up, we have them fill out the practice sheet beforehand. Oh, fill out the practice sheet beforehand, and then do the shoot analysis sheet at the end, you could record parts of the clinic. Yeah, that'd be awesome. That'd be a really good idea. Okay, so after tournament simulation, another type of practice that I think is important is like confidence, or trust building practice. That one's pretty self explanatory. You just basically are working on building your trust, but building your trust or confidence. But there's a reason why I didn't just pick one of those words, because the two two of those words mean and are pointing towards different things. Confidence would be in your ability. Trust would be in your mechanics. So you want to have practice focused on building up your self image, so to speak. Increasing how your belief and how good you are. So that doubt doesn't set in in a tournament but also increasing your belief that what you're choosing to do is the best thing to do to different things under the same category. Jason Yeah, what about fitness? The I would consider that more part of like a the holistic plan in terms of your accomplishing your goals, not necessarily specific practice, like shooting practice, but I don't know if you were here in the beginning of the episode i That was the first comment that I saw from you. So it doesn't seem like you were but I brought up all of the stuff that you guys did today. And then at the end of the episode, I'm going to link both the episode that you released on fitness and the
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54:45the video for like, fitness routines. But yeah, basically what I said long story short was that, you know, that's incredibly important variable in terms of being able to accomplish your goals and be able to execute that Under mechanics and have the energy to focus and to move and, and everything like that. So, like, your physical health and fitness should be an important part of your whole plan towards accomplishing your goals. And by that I don't, I don't necessarily mean like, you know, you have to get ripped and shredded and worn, you know, but you need to be able to manage your energy levels, and that's the biggest thing, you you it's very important to eat good. And to have an manage your energy levels, and, and being active and doing things, especially with, like flexibility, mobility, balance, proprioceptive movement, and, and, you know, sleep and, and health and that respect is incredibly important. Okay, so the apprentice says, do I plan on going into gunfight in the series at all it would seem these practice methods are predicated on that your gun is shooting where you are looking, the reason I asked is because you can be visually doing the correct things but not shooting where you're looking. Therefore this can affect the feedback you're getting from your practice. Yeah, I mean, gun fit is going to be really, really important. I don't really plan probably on on talking about like modifying your gun to fit you better in the podcast, because there are so many videos on that, that I don't need to cover it because just because of the availability of content in that, but I will be talking about basically how body movement influences gun fit. And so yes. Okay, so I just talked about the confidence slash trust building practice. The next one is my favorite type of practice. And anybody that has a very like, abstract style of thinking, or you can categorize people's inner dialogue in two different ways, you could say somebody is a very linear thinker, or somebody is a very non linear thinker. If you are a non linear thinker, where your ideas tend to bounce around a lot, you will probably enjoy practicing this way. But it's just exploratory practice is what I call it. And I tend to do that a lot. And it is through that style of practice, that I have learned a lot, I would attribute 50% of what I know. Maybe more than that, I would attribute I would attribute 100% of what I know about myself in certain situations, and my strengths and weaknesses in in all the information that helps me make the best decision in a tournament to this type of practice. And I would also attribute a lot of the mechanics that I use an end stumbled upon on accident that are incredibly valuable to this type of practice. The next type is like a practice designed to build proprioception to heighten your proprioceptive feedback and connection with your gun in your body. And then we have a closed loop practice and pressure or repetition practice. So I'm losing my voice from talking so much. And my mouth is incredibly dry. And I'm basically out of water on this, but it has a lot of salt in terms of electrolytes in it. So I need to get another drink, just like pure water. So the next topic I'm going into is, that's the end of just listing the different types of shooting practice. I'm now going to finish this episode off with giving you an example of each one. And so before I get into that, opening up for any questions that we have on any of the things that I just said, or if you have if you feel like you have a style of practice that I didn't list and you're wanting to know why I didn't list it, or if it's involved incorporated into one of my other categories
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59:49Yeah, Joe, you're correct about there is not very much good content when it comes to gun fit.
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01:00:04Think about that I may I may do something I don't know if that will make it as part of the podcast but that doesn't mean I'm not going to create content about it on my YouTube channel so because that would be in you know you're right Austin the last one was pressure and repetition practice I'm gonna list them off real quick again. Actually I will let's do this make it easy for you guys. I'm going to copy this and put it in the chat
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01:03:12all right, so last topic. Thank you guys for staying with me. Three hours and 20 minutes in. That might be a record. Maybe I think I don't know. Okay, so, let's, I don't see any questions on that or comments. So we're gonna go in to the examples of each type of practice. I'm just gonna give, I'm going to try to give like one Why am I looking over here at the cameras over here. I'm just gonna give like one example of each practice to kind of make it quick. And also because I want to stick with the theme of you guys trying to get a little bit creative and abstract and diving deep and thinking critically about how to build different routines based off of specific information that identifiable to you and helps you based off of that information that you get running a tutor analysis or talking to your coach or watching videos, whatever. And pushing it through the filter of whatever topic of practice that you're trying to build. The okay so the first one was physical mechanics. So I have a you know what, I'm going to pull it up. I don't normally like to do this because I send this out to students. I have a
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01:04:48I have
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01:04:54every single individual physical mechanic variable That's it. That is that happens in physical movement. I have at least one drill to practice and isolate that specific type of movement. And so I'm going to pull up one of them if I can find it on this laptop let's try here
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01:05:44okay, cool. Let's go back to this thing
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01:06:00Okay, so this is what I call my 3045 60 drill. And this is a drill that is put together to specifically focus on the mechanics of the different basically differentiating the speed of your hands and your body. So this is a drill that you can follow. And, you know, go through step by step in a practice routine. And with a specific, conscious awareness that you've decided on and assigned your sensory perception to, you will learn a lot and build very good and efficient movement over time, so basically, this is an example of the drill, it gives you the type of targets that you need to set and what the purpose of each different one is, you would, you would not necessarily want to do all three different types of targets in one practice, you can if you want to if you're more efficient at shooting, but in the beginning, you may want to just pick one, and that the best one to pick is a pier crossing target because it gives you more of a one to one ratio in terms of the speed because you're not, the bird isn't changing its relationship to you as quartering away or quartering in which would if it was courting away and maintaining the same speed, you would feel your movement slowing down. And the opposite would happen if you if the bird was cornering in, but it gives you the different type of target sets that you can vary the presentations on gives you a focus for what you should be setting everything up in. And it tells you basically what to pay attention to. But then also, if you go down, it gives you a it gives you a menu. So you follow this menu like with a scorecard. And these are the different types of birds. So you'd have a bird set at a 45 degree angle, a bird set a 60 degree angle and a bird set at a 30 degree angle. These are all angles of like how high it is. And you would go through that menu, you'd start off in the first round and shoot 15 targets of the 45 degree bird, because that's going to give you a one to one ratio between your hand speed and your rotational speed based off of the way that I teach then 15 targets of the 60 then 15 targets of the 30. And then Round two is 10 of each and then five of each than three of each than one of each. And the purpose is the more that you progress through this drill, the the less of an ability that you have to settle in on a movement. So it is cueing your awareness to it starts you off being able to identify and and slowly correct the physical movement in your hands or rotation depending on what you're focusing on. And by giving you a higher volume of each specific one before you change to the next one. Because you know a 45 degree target is going to feel different than a 60 which is going to feel different than a 30. So it gives you 15 of each antenna beats and five of each and three of each than one of each. And basically, you sit at round five for as long as you want. By the time you get to that you're only shooting one of each target. So from shot to shot, your awareness is cued to the differentiation between the movement in your body after you have allowed yourself to kind of refine and correct the movement and So the and then underneath for the two 2d diagrams, it kind of just gives you an example of what you should feel in each one of those. So that's an example of a physical practice focused on physical mechanics. And it's a great one. That's one of my favorite ones. The let's see, the next one is visual mechanics. So there are a lot of different things inside of Visual mechanics, where you can focus on practicing. The one that is really simple to explain is I just caught like the eye snap drill, basically, what you do is, you specifically would be highlighting the ocular muscular movement of your eyes. And you would want to be consciously aware and attentive to trying to control the fact that as soon as you take the shot on one bird, that you snap your eyes to the second bird, immediately, and before your body and gun respond to that movement. So essentially, you're, you're forcing and controlling consciously your eyes to get to the second focal point before the gun even moves. And, and so that's going to be hard, because you have to give up wanting to see the gun really well, I mean, you have to abandon the gun with your eyes to move to the second bird. And that's hard. Because a lot of people can't move the gun to the correct place. Without watching where they put it, I'm not going to go into how you accomplish doing that. Because that get you know, that gets it. I'm telling you what the drills are. But if I go into explaining everything, then that's the same thing as a lesson. So the I can tell you, it's a very hard drill to do, it's quite possibly the hardest mechanic of any thing in the game to be able to do. But it's also probably the most important one. Put it this way, if you the difference in your ability to shoot and how you feel while you're shooting in a tournament, if you do or do not do this with your eyes, is the biggest difference of perceived experience. But of any variable, it completely changes the game, it's the most important thing to be able to do visually and quite possibly physically. Because what that allows your body to be able to do physically is drastically important. But the, you know, I'm not going to go into explaining what what, what you have to do and what you'd experience and talk me through all that because a lot of people have paid money to learn that and it's not respectful to them, for me to explain that on here. But I can tell you that a great way to work on that would be to combine that with exploratory practice and and learn yourself. That would be not very easy to do early on in the game if you're newer to shooting, but it would be more reasonable to attempt to try if you were more skilled at shooting, just because of the continuous changing of focus sets of your consciousness. It would be it would be challenging. Routine based practice is the next thing. And Curtis I see your question and I am going to get to the closed loop thing. But anyways, so routine based practice. That's the rehearsal of your pre shot routine or setup routine or an event routine, whatever it is. And basically a great way to practice any type of routine routine, routine, routine style practice is to simulate an environment in which you would be running it. So like you don't necessarily want to you would be better off practicing your routine. Let's say you're doing a pre shot routine, and you want to you want to practice your pre shot routine. You'll be better practicing it if you actually just go through a course and follow a menu because you're getting the diversity of everything you're not allowing yourself to settle in and learn a bunch of things and then not have to put as much emphasis on your pre shot routine. You know you're either doing three or four pair of each one maybe five pair of each pair Are and and so you're, you're basically you're exercising your cognitive ability to run that routine and learning what parts you feel like you don't need in there because they're not helping. And they feel like you're just running through a checklist. And then what parts you notice are making a huge impact on your performance. And basically a look at practicing your routine style practice as not just getting better at your routine, but potentially refining, correcting, deleting, or adding things to your routine that you feel like are missing or not needed.
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01:15:35And, you know, take into account understand all of this is based off of the information that you get, that we talked about earlier on in this episode, that has to do with, you know, like running a shoot analysis, one of the one of the whole, overarching categories, and an astute analysis is your pre shot routine and asks you questions on it. And so you know, you could, you could easily look into the data in that category to see what would be a good thing to build in your routine and what you might want to make a deduction on in terms of changing it, or adding to it or removing it, changing the order of things, whatever. So that's an example of a routine based practice. The next category is the problem solving practice. So this is a really weird approach to practice, but it's actually very valuable. And actually, this, this style of practice requires very little shooting, because it's not really heavily focused on physical movement, it's focused on your ability to analytically assess and deduce, based off of your ability and knowledge of the game, what to do to apply to the targets that you're being presented to shoot. So basically involves a high volume of target reading and, and, and creating a plan, there's a huge emphasis on that you, you're putting a massive emphasis on reading the birds, and making a plan. Like, and because of that, you're going to want a really high, very ability of target presentations. Because you, the purpose is not to practice the presentations, the purpose is to practice your ability to create a plan and practice your ability to read targets. So this is one thing that I do with some students, sometimes in lessons or that, like I'll do myself in the beginning of the year, let's say I go to a club, and I say they have a sporting clays course, I'll take an iPad out. And my plan is to go and shoot the course. So I will go to station one, and I throw the first bird. And I read it and I throw the second bird and I read it and I take the iPad out and I take a picture from eye level of the view of the station from where I would be standing. And then on the picture, I draw the lines of the birds. And I try to draw it as accurately as I possibly can after having just seen one view pair. And after that, then with my drawing, I throw the first bird again. And I look at the accuracy of the line that I drew that I did it go over the correct background points did it have the same amount of space above the tree line that the actual target line is basically I'm just gauging my accuracy and my ability to know what the lines are after just seeing one thing, I'm also going to look at like my accuracy and where I read the apex to be or where I saw that it landed, and things like that. And I do the same thing for the second bird. And the and then I make a correction to my drawing if I'm wrong. And then after that, I plan on shooting a report pair A B and you can add or change the menu style that you shoot. But just pick two of birds if there's three pick targets at every station or four targets every station that's fine, but just use a combination of whatever just pick a bird or two birds create a report pair. True pairs I don't generally do too much of in this because I mean I don't recommend people do too much of this because we have to get good at understanding what is a good and fair true Pair, you don't just want to throw a true pair of two targets together. And they might be, it might just be a dumb pair and isn't going to help you learn anything. So if you feel like it is a good true pair, and the timing of it is fair to you, then you can throw that too. But create a pair and build a plan in your head, pick a whole point, pick a break point, under, you know, the way that I teach is, there's all these variables that I have to find out. So I go through and find out all those variables in terms of my physical setup, I make a plan, I try to go through and think about what the plan should feel like, if I executed it correctly, and what it what how I should see everything happening if I executed correctly, and I don't mean lead, I mean, like how good of details was i Seeing the bird? How slow should it look? When am I able to actually see the most amount of detail, you know, go through the list all the things that are important to put into a plan. If you don't know those things, run, go to my website, D radulovich.com/shoot. And, and start to fill out a shoot analysis. And when you get to the planning part of the shoot analysis, all the things I've asked you about are the things you want to include in your plan. And the planning is a subcategory on a couple of different pages. So that's what you'd want to be looking at. And so then I build a plan, and then I shoot the pair one time only. And I assess if I was if what I put together in my head was accurate to how I experienced it. And then I flipped the pair if there's two targets there, or I pick it, or I create a different pair if there's multiple traps there. And then I do the same thing I put together a plan, both in my mechanics and my eyes. So like where my eyes are gonna go, how they're gonna see everything. And then I shoot the pair one time, and I assessed that off of what my plan was. And then I move on to the next station. I just repeat that through the whole thing. That's it, that is a good example of problem solving practice. Basically, it's all about your ability to problem solve critically analyze things, and research and come up with a plan. Okay, the next category is tournament simulation, that one is very self explanatory. Basically, you're going to simulate being in a tournament, I would recommend doing this with a squad put together a squad of four to five other people. And all of you guys having the intention of it being like a tournament, put money on the line, if you want bet lunch or dinner, or beers afterwards, whatever you want, but simulate a practice. And I mean simulated tournament, and run everything about your tournament even beforehand, you know, make sure you sleep good, do all the stuff that you would normally do for a match, go to the go to the tournament, go to the club, and follow the menu, keep score, have trappers call out the pair's, you know, you may find some people that are going to take it very seriously and they're focused and quiet. But that's not the only experience that you get in tournaments with squat random squatting, sometimes you get people that want to talk and that are obnoxious and loud and whatever. And so, you know, literally give yourself any type of experience that you can have in a tournament, simulate it, test it out with the purpose of picking anything within that experience that you're trying to either gain awareness on or improve or refine. The next one is that trust or confidence practice. And that is, you know, if it's going to be the confidence practice, a very simple way to do that is to go to a target or pair that you know that you have a high degree of efficiency or proficiency on and just grind out as many targets as you can with the purpose of basically hit hitting as many as possible, running your full routine and fully consciously paying attention to the bird visually. The trust aspect of that, meaning that you're building your trust in your own mechanics would be that you know, you're going to be very heavily focused on the setup to make sure your mechanics are good. And as you shoot pairs or birds that you're going to do through the same filter as the competence building. Practice, you're just more heavily focused on your mechanics and paying attention to how your execution of those mechanics work really well. And if you want you can explore around with different approaches that you think may be equally good, better or just slightly less. Basically, you're you're building your belief in that the approach that you want to take on that is the best one that you know how to do. I will add this statement to to what I just said. Because when you get into a tournament it becomes important to Believe in what your plan is, so you don't doubt it and then have it cost you as you shoot the targets.
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01:25:07If you're going to compare yourself to let's just use me as an example, I would feel pretty confident in saying that there's nobody listening to this right now, or probably that will watch this later on, that would be able to put together a better plan for a target presentation than me, including their visual mechanics, physical mechanics, emotional awareness, I would bet that it would, that nobody will be able to build a better plan than me for how to approach that specific presentation in a tournament. And so the reason why I say that is because you don't want to lose confidence in your ability for what you've decided to do. Because you think it may not be as good as is possible to do, like, your plan probably won't be as good or as detailed as my plan on the same pair. But as long as it is as good as you know how to do. And you put in all the effort that you that you can you include it all the things that you know, to include. That's how you grade, the the quality of your planning, and your choice of mechanics, because you can't make a decision based off of information or knowledge that you don't have. So understand that. As long as you feel like when you're about to call pull, that it's the best plan that you know how to do then have 100% confidence in it because you can't do something that you don't know how to do. Okay, exploratory practice. This one is, at the same time, the most complex type of practice on this list and the most simple because basically what this is, and I would not really recommend somebody early on in the game doing this, because you just won't have the depth of knowledge in terms of awareness of what you can move your conscious awareness to, you won't know all the individual things that you can pay attention to that will influence the shot. And it will be more important at that stage of the game early on, to be focusing on one thing to improve in your movement and ability to control the body and the gun. So this would be more applicable for people that are that are further along their stage of learning. But an exploratory style practice is essentially what it is called, you're exploring and experimenting, pushing yourself to your own limits in terms of mechanics, in terms of your eyes, in terms of your breakpoints, in terms of trying to shave off unneeded movement, make more movement. Experiment with different states, like emotional states, physical levels of tension and muscular input of energy. Literally just anything and everything just go crazy and creative and explore. And, and as you explore. Basically, what you're doing is you have an idea that you want to test, you want to you're trying to see how efficient you can do a specific mechanic, shoot the shot, analyze it, see if there's room for improvement, try it again, analyze it, see if there's room for improvement, try it again. And keep going down that road until you feel like you can't do it any better. And then from that, ask yourself, What can I do better here to make the shot happen in a different way or in a better way. And then like re focus your attention to that. And then take a shot and experience that and refine it. And then just basically what you're doing is you're repositioning what you're paying attention to and continuously trying to modify, refine, or make it better. And, or you could basically every time you miss a shot, just ask yourself what felt wrong, try to fix that. And then ask yourself again what felt wrong or ask yourself what can I do better after every shot in all the categories and after every shot that you take? Focus on the answer to that question from the last shot and you're going to find yourself bouncing off the walls in terms of what you're focusing on a lot, but you're going to be gaining a huge level of awareness. And over time as you do this, you will start to connect the dots in understanding what influences what and That's all I'm gonna leave it at, I'm gonna leave that at for now, because that gets can get incredibly complex. And that is quite possibly the most valuable style of practice. And I don't want to give too much away of that. The next one is like a proprioceptive, practice building proprioceptive connection. So an example of this style of practice would be, essentially, you can do this at home a great way to do it at home. One of my favorite drills is to put a laser light in your gun, pick a spot on your wall, and have the gun unmounted, pick a spot on your wall and, and look at it with your eyes and adjust your body, not your hands, but adjust your body without changing the relationship of your hands and upper body to where that laser light is pointing where you're looking. And then just keep picking different spots and keep moving like that with your body. And over time, you will build appropriate set of a man excuse me, you'll build a higher level of proprioceptive awareness and feedback with your gun and your hands when you have a tool in your hands like your gun. And it increases your connectedness with your movement. When you're not looking at the gun, it's important that when you do that, you you are only looking at that spot on the wall. And you get that laser light to align with that spot on the wall. You can also add different, like stressors onto that. So like you can do I like to actually, strangely enough, I like to do that while standing on a BOSU ball to heighten my awareness of my balance, and make it harder for me to do that. And there's so many other things you can do. But that's just an example I saw I was gonna give one example. The next. And second last style of practice is closed loop practice, I've talked about this a lot, you're basically changing shooting from an open loop skill or process to a closed loop process or skill. And the way that you can do that is remove the external feedback. And the way that you remove the external feedback is you remove your ability to have external feedback, which is that you take the cells out of your gun. So closely practice would be going to the range, literally not bringing ammo with you. And, and I literally mean that if you're going to really actually focus on a closed loop practice. Don't shoot that day, make it 100%, about your movement. And, and, and just go and either focus on one dividual thing or whatever, you know, you build the focus of your practice, but do it through that filter of no ammo, and it will hugely heighten your awareness to the way that your body moves, and you'll gain very valuable information. And the last one is, is pressure and repetition practice. And that's pretty self explanatory. You're just you know, whatever the goal and focus is of your practice, you're building high levels of repetition into it, to try to force yourself into repeatability of either the mechanics or the result. And, and by that you build pressure on yourself, or you can do things that also build pressure on yourself, like, you know, betting with your friends keeping score, I like to do a thing called a go home round where I plan to practice with a specific focus. But before I start that practice, I you know, have a different menu on a different target, you could do it on Skeet, or you can pick a specific target and say like, I have to shoot 50 in a row and not miss any. And if I do miss one, I have to go home and I don't get to practice whatever it is, you know, just build something, use something to create pressure and and force yourself to practice repeatability. So that is the whole list. And I said at the end of this that I would link the links to the Dead Parrot podcast stuff and I'm going to right now. So that's going to be in the comments. First I'm going to put down the link to the episode and the second link that I'm going to be attaching is to the YouTube video. Oh With the physical
David Radulovich
01:35:07Well, I kick my camera, again, the YouTube video with the like the the fitness routine, and some of the stuff that you can do to help improve your shooting. So I would recommend looking at those because they do they do heavily relate to this whole topic that we're on, which is just learning how to accomplish your goals and a step by step process month by month and learning every component involved in that. And one of the components is fitness. So cool timing of that. And I appreciate the dead pair guys not only for what they do, not only for for them participating in my live podcast and for them having me on their podcast. But I appreciate all of the stuff that they put out and the effort and time that they put into putting together helpful content and having fun guests on on their podcast. So if any of you guys are subscribed to me on youtube or as a podcast and you have not heard of them, go follow those guys too, and give them support on any of the channels that you have. And same for all of the shooting podcasts. I haven't I'm now realizing how many there are. There's shotgun sports, there's clay lab, there's there's like three or four different trap shooting podcasts. I don't know if there's any skeet shooting podcast yet, but there is a lot. So yeah. Damon says, What about adding a shot cam with the laser light Josie, you could watch what you did, too, I think it would have to be in the hunt mode. Yeah, Damon, the the shot cam is fantastic. It's an incredible training drill. And I'm actually probably going to have a whole episode on how you can use that in your practice. Because I'm a huge believer in that product and a huge believer in that in those people. They're fantastic people. And they make a product second to none. And there are a lot of other shotgun or gun barrel cameras on the market. And I feel bad for all of the other ones. Put it that way. Because the shot cam is amazing. It's amazing. An amazing tool has a fantastic app. And it mean you want to talk about a company with amazing customer service, and incredible attention to detail and a huge amount of care for their for their customers that company. It should I mean, you could do a case study on them in college. So huge fan definitely going to include them later on. In fact, actually, I've already been talking to them about a lot of that stuff. And including a lot of shot cam stuff in footage and the use of that product in some videos that I'm in currently in the process of making. So I guess we are basically four hours in and I am 50% away from not being able to talk. That's a lot. So I guess we will call it there. It's very late for a lot of you guys. So I will probably do is any remaining questions that I didn't get to or if you need clarification on anything, we will just plan on holding them for another episode or email them to me. And you can always email email them to me at podcast at de radulovich.com and I will do my best to answer them. I will also say that I know I am behind on a lot of your emails and responses for this podcast. And the tomorrow morning I am headed home and have a big block of time in my schedule to catch up on everything. Basically the way that I work is that because of my teaching and everything, you're gonna if you email me while I'm on the road teaching, it'll be hit or miss whether I can get back to you or not because of how long I'm teaching and then have video lessons after I'm teaching and then podcasts after the video lessons until midnight and then start again in the morning. So I really literally have zero time by myself for Have a week or two straight to be able to answer emails. And if I do it after midnight, then I can't teach good the next day because I'm tired. So I, it's basically, you know, I'll go through periods and when I can answer and when I can't, but I always try to get back to everybody. So we'll get back to all you guys. And then thank you all for being here. And Holy Cow Matthews still on here. I hope that you went to sleep 5am My God. Goodness, we'll get some sleep, man. And thank you. Thank you all for submitting everything. I wish that I could have a podcast where I could get on air, everybody's submissions, but it literally would be impossible. With all of the stuff that I have. I actually had plans to include two more, no three more today. But thankfully, I did it because we would be probably past the five hour mark. So yeah, there's that. Cool. Anyways, thank you guys a lot, appreciate everything. If you find the podcast helpful, just share it with a friend. And that's all I ask, trying to help as many people as I can. And I enjoy hanging out with you. Thank you all for the participation and the interaction and the engagement and the submissions and it's a blast I really have a lot of fun. So good night everybody and we will see you or you will hear me I haven't decided if the next one is going to be recorded or YouTube live but basically around Monday adios and I forgot how to industry but now I just found the button so that was awkward. Okay, just a little reminder that if you're listening to this episode, this was the end of the YouTube video but because I cut it in half and swapped each end so that the informative stuff is in the beginning of the audio recording. This is now just starting the whole session going into the submitted practice routines and discussing what happened answering questions and laying out a lot of really valuable information. So there this is you don't I would not recommend stop listening to this at this point. But I would recommend if you're not already watching this on YouTube that you at this point you definitely migrate over to watching this episode on YouTube because this is where I'm actually showing things on the screen that people have submitted and talking about it and it's way more valuable
David Radulovich
01:42:57All right guys. I'm gonna give it like a few seconds or so to make sure that you guys can all hear me and everything is good. So I'll wait for the chat to come through to make sure that that's good to go. But I hope you're all doing good today this is going to be a little bit of my phone's talking to me it's gonna be a little bit more of a detailed YouTube Live episode I have some some some like pretty specific topics I want to cover and some user submission stuff. Oh really, I should say listener submission stuff from the homework that was submitted over the past week and a half and we're going to get into that first but then go into some of the topics so the mean to scroll through and check to see if there are any questions all right let's see
David Radulovich
01:44:08okay, cool
David Radulovich
01:44:15no specific questions so far. All right. So can you guys all hear me? Yeah, I don't really know. And if I do if you can tell me if I need to adjust the gain on the mic, or anything like that. But we should be good to go. Once I hear from all of you. Which hopefully assume how many of you are down in Florida right now for all of the tournaments going on? I think right now is the RC cup at South Florida gun club or shooting club. If you are here for that, best of luck to you Okay, cool. We are good on the on the sound. Awesome. Okay, so let me pull this up real quick I have had a insane amount of emails, submissions on the form submissions of the homework to my email, text messages, video messages from practice sessions. So it looks like all of you have done really, really well on keeping up to date with all your homework. So that's really cool. And I want to thank you guys for that because it is a lot of work. Real quick, what I want to do is just reference something that came out today, that's really, really cool, and actually goes along really well with the topics that we're going to be covering today in this episode. And that is the most recent dead pair podcast episode. I'm going to at the end of this video, put a link in the, in the comments for any of you that want to find it, there's two things that they released. One is an episode that like their actual episode, and the other one is a YouTube video that was put together by the guests that they had for this episode. So I have not personally been able to go through and listen to that episode yet or watch the YouTube video. But I did talk to Jason this morning. And I got notes from him on all the topics that they cover. And basically, it's it's really in line with my content for this week, or really this month kind of, and it has a lot to do with basically the physical fitness personal training aspect of what you can do to get in better shape and better health in order to improve your shooting. So for a lot of you that is and I know this as a fact a lot of you have that type of thing in your goals for this year, as either a main goal or some type of stepping stone goal, that that feeds into something that you're looking to accomplish by the end of the year. So definitely sometime by the end of the week, or when you can check out that video and that episode. Again, I will link it in the comments. But anyways, let's get into the topic. So this episode basically titled How to create a perfect practice plan. And what I'd like to do first is read through some some emails and notes that I've got sent from a few people I have had so many people send things in. And I've been teaching all day, every day down here. So I have not been able to add some of the stuff that all of you have submitted into the notes and, you know, plan for today. But what I did do is go through and pick, I think it's three different ones so far that were submitted, you know, so there's gonna be a lot of you that are going to feel left out. I apologize for that on on this episode. I'll get to it. Hopefully this coming week, when I get home. I'm driving back home from Florida tomorrow morning. So I'll get back to you either personally, or in another episode on YouTube. But I picked three out that I think really will apply for a lot of you that have submitted stuff and very specific one that I want to cover first. That is going to, I think, be something that if all of you are doing the right thing in terms of following your goals, building out a plan and incorporating the neurological information, based off of the science that we covered in the most recent recorded episode. This is going to be an experience that a lot of you will have in terms of what this specific person communicated to me. And so I definitely want to hit that first because I know it's going to be relevant to to pretty much everybody here and I want to talk about it explain it talks about how to get through it and why it's actually a good thing. So the first thing I'm going to do is I'm just going to read the email that I got this is a sin get bit from the email that I got. This is from Matthew Etherington from the UK. And I'll just quickly go down to the part of the email, we talked about this. So he had already sent his practice plan and some, you know, a bunch of stuff like a laid out goal sheet, a bunch of everything. And I'd communicated back and forth with him a little bit. And today, or maybe yesterday, it was supposed to be a tournament that he went to, at EJ Churchill, which is going to be where the World Championship will be this summer. And so these are the notes that I got from him today. And also, thank you for sending that in. And for letting me talk about it on this podcast. Anyways, so it goes, I literally just got back from the EJ Churchill registered 100 Target tournament, whereby I have had an absolute shocker. This after having a very good practice session yesterday, I shot a 6320 targets under my current average with a card that looks like Swiss cheese, with no real pattern to the missus just wildly inconsistent across all 12 stands. So I'll go through your shoot analysis sheet to analyze it as best as I can. But it's hard for me to say where exactly my my mind is on a post shot shot analysis as feeling smooth and in control with my body movements, but clearly had no connection with the target and where to pull the trigger. I've attached the card for your reference, but bloody hard reading from my side. So not to laugh at the at the score. But at first off of the language. I love the way that you guys expressively speak over there. And I'm going to try I don't think that I I tried to pull up the card so I could show you guys. You know what, actually, I'm gonna see if I can try it one more time. We're gonna see let's try this. I want to just go, if I can pull this up. The problem is it was in a different format that my computer won't read. And so I was having a problem opening up the picture? Let's see
David Radulovich
01:52:36Yeah, dang, can't do it. Okay, anyways, so he basically in his explanation, he's correct in saying that, if you look at the start, if you look at his scorecard, there's no real consistency to it, there's no real theme to it, there's just misses all over the place. And so this is going to be something that a lot of you may possibly struggle with early on. But it's avoidable. And it's something that you probably will struggle with early on if you do one little mistake. And so I want to hit on it. But before I explain what happened, I want to go into the submitted stuff that he sent me based off of what his practice plan was and what his experiences were. So we're going to go into that. And I'm gonna pull it up here. I apologize that I'm gonna be doing a lot of screen sharing on this episode. And just unfortunately, I'm on a laptop as opposed to my three monitor desktop setup at home so is going to be kind of clunky and a little bit like weird as I do this, because I'm working all of it off of one screen so just bear with me as I go through here. But anyway, so let's pull up our
David Radulovich
01:54:08let's pull up Matthews submitted information
David Radulovich
01:54:22Okay, so right here. This is there's a couple pages to this. And this is the basically the month long schedule that he has. And I do want to I do want to bring this up first. Because if you guys have had a chance to listen to the first recorded episode that I released, one of the things that I talked about being incredibly important is balance. Balance in your training plan and Being able to make sure that you structure your pursuit of accomplishing your goals in a way that I'm sorry, I just got to text in a way that allows you to, number one, not get burned down or oversaturated with this, you know, massively indulged version of shooting where we're just hitting it so hard, and being incredibly detailed in our planning, and structure and schedule, that it's all focused on shooting, and just either emotionally, or, you know, literally goal wise, we get burned out and lose interest. And the I thought that this plan here was actually pretty good with that. Because, first off just a little, you know, I'm colorblind, I think these are pink boxes, where it says family, I like that that's in there. And he's giving himself time to be able to do that. You know, if you go through, you're looking at four different weeks of the month, and he's sketching out per day. And he's not really shooting every day. But if you look at the at home practice stuff, he is doing things on a daily basis, in order to maintain relevancy and saliency in the stuff that he's trying to learn. Later on, in this episode, I'm going to get into the different types of practice that we can have. And one of the most important things actually is practice that you can do at home. So I'll be able to actually bring up some different drills you can do and practice routines that you can do at your house, in your office, in between zoom calls, if you work at home, or, you know, just real quick little things you can do. But that's what a lot of this is, that kind of stuff, really, if you're doing it right can help to build a proprioceptive relationship with the gun to allow you to pull that into both you're practicing and you're competing in a way that is hugely beneficial. The, if we scroll down here a little bit more, we see some of the, you know, he's he's giving us what some of the drills are that he's going to be using for his home practice. So you know, he's doing gun mounts. You can see I'm hoping that this is coming through on here. But he's got gun mounts, practicing to a fixed point, I would assume on a wall, doing that for just a couple minutes. And he's separated out different segments of this, who's got two to five minutes with his eyes closed, just out of an out of cheek mount, I would assume that would mean you know, like, basically, this static place in the shoulder with the head off of the gun, two to five minutes of I closed eyes closed in a low amount. So I'm actually dismounted gun, and then two to five minutes, eyes closed with move mount swing, left and right. So basically create getting some body rotation into the mount with his eyes closed. It's kind of an interesting thing, because essentially, what you're doing is removing external stimuli. So that you can more easily consciously focus on specific proprioceptive feedback that your body is getting throughout that that actual physical motion. I like that. I think that's really good. I like the differentiation of the three different things. And I think that's really cool, really easy thing to do takes 15 minutes maximum, and you accomplish a lot. You know, consistency in the amount is hugely important. I'll also like I said later on the episode get into more things that we can do with that. But anyways, the he's also detailed out some other stuff that he's doing, and we don't need to spend too much time on that. But I thought this was really, really cool. So we get into let's see. This it's basically a like, taking that monthly schedule, breaking it apart. I guess he's using this as a little bit of, you know, like to make sure that he's actually accomplishing these things. And detailing out the competitions. I really think this is good with the amount of competitions that he has the and what one what it caused me to want to bring up is, you know what, we can actually use tournaments for obviously, when we go to a tournament, you know, we want to try to shoot really well. But I talked about in the first episode that I released with the goal set thinking everything, how you can actually use tournaments as a test for the things that you're working on. And if not everybody is going to have either the financial ability or the availability in their, in time in terms of their schedule, or just be in an area geographically that has tournaments, this frequently, you know, four tournaments in a month, that's pretty intense, most of us in the at the heaviest, basically get to like one or two. But, you know, in this month schedule, if he's got four tournaments, I would assume at least one of them is not a very big tournament, quite possibly all four are not that important. And so sometimes it's really, really useful to use those tournaments as tech as a test, the types of things that we would want to be testing and tournament are not really mechanical. Or we could call like, physical techniques, stuff, but instead really testing out. Like, in event routines, so things like your, well your event routine, which would be like the process of, of different actions that you're doing as you progress through the round. So you know, like, are, how good are you at engaging or disengaging different conscious focus sets? Like what's your if are you good at, you know, moving your attention? Are you practicing, you know, being able to stay present? Are you, you know, making sure that you're staying hydrated? And, you know, eating something to maintain energy? What are you doing in your research, planning and rehearsal phase of each station? So like, that part of the routine would be, you know, like, when you get to a stage, and what are you doing? Are you paying attention to the targets? Are you doing? Are you making a plan? Are you researching different options, and then after you've determined your plan, have you, you know, rehearse that out, and just kind of like to, to transfer what your plan is consciously into more nonconscious response when you're actually go into the cage to execute, that kind of stuff, could also involve testing out your pre shot routine, and making adjustments and amendments to that, to see how well it works for whatever goal or purpose that you want. You know, one thing that's pretty popular, in terms of the communication and feedback that I get from my students, is that they use smaller monthly tournaments, to test out different either orders of how they're running their pre shot routine, or in testing, like adding or deleting specific phases of their pre shot routine to try to see if they can make that pre shot routine feel more immersive, and less, like they're checking off a list just for the sake of doing things. And you can even use, you know, tournaments as a test to see, you know, over a period of time, or is there a certain time of the day that you can that you are able to compete or focus better, is there a certain type of thing that you need to do a few days prior to leading up to that tournament to make sure that you have better energy levels, or whatever it is. So we can use tournaments as both actual tournaments and also tests. So very, very cool. And we got some more information here. The he's even laid out, like the outline for what he's going to be practicing in February. And let's see if we have
David Radulovich
02:04:03here Okay, so this actually, I don't want to go into that yet. Oops. And then here's actually a little scorecard that he he took of a practice session. So what I really liked about this was that he labeled what the targets were he had a specific plan coming into the practice followed that plan and then went through and scored it and this kind of stuff although sometimes it can be a maybe this is a tournament although sometimes it can it can be kind of heavy handed in terms of the work that you're putting in. And different types of personalities either do or do not like doing this type of stuff. Like for me it's it's it's kind of like torture having to take all those types of notes. Because I just don't like doing it, but the value of it is, is massive. There's all different types of forms that you can take notes like this and plan things out. One thing that I found that I really enjoy doing, because I don't like to write stuff out with ADHD, it's just like to feel like you can find the time to sit down and actually do that is really, really hard. And it feels just like a lot of work for some reason, I don't know why. So what I like to do is I take voice memos on my phone, and I will basically at the end of a round, like a tournament or at the end of a practice. On my way back to my house, I'll turn a voice memo on and just kind of start talking stream of consciousness, and summarizing my experience making any mental notes that I need to. And then there are plenty of apps where you can upload a recording, and it transfers that into a transcript like it changes at all to text. And I like to do that because it seems very easy. And I can kind of like double up on time. So as I'm driving, I can just talk as opposed to having to get home and take the time to write things out. But I really liked this. I think this is fantastic. And no wrong person. I had somewhere here. I can't find it.
David Radulovich
02:06:32Matt, if you are watching right now did you send me what your plan was I thought I knew what your practice plan was like what the focus of it was, because I thought that I had that now I don't know where it went. Not that it matters too much. Oh, I know where it is. Okay, let's go back to something else. I'm going to transition to the main camera. Okay, so I'm here is I'm going to read off what he sent me in some in some notes. So it says this is the this is a summary of the practice plan, I decided to start on a target that I'm very familiar with, rather than work on a target that I'm struggling with this is so I can get a feel for the technique of consciously paying attention to an isolated physical movement. And being aware of the muscles involved. Rather than the target being my primary focus for the practice. I thought that was really cool. It was something that I did not recommend in any episode. And it was a unique way of basically using the target style or just his own personal confidence in that specific target to kind of remove and and replace the value of what he's doing into the physical mechanics. Basically, what he's doing there is essentially accomplishing the same thing as what I've talked about, which is remove the shells from the gun, but still shoot the target. Because, you know, basically, he's shooting a target that he's not really going to miss. So he's not too worried about that and allows him to more easily consciously influence his sensory perception, which was that category that we talked about in the last recorded episode. So it says I started on high four on a skeet field. My conscious physical focus for this practice is my right hand FII left handed shooters so he's talking about, he's going to be consciously focusing on his front hand of of it in the mount, and smoothly pulling my gun into a full mouth from a just out of cheek ready position. I've been practicing this move at home. As you if you guys remember in the little detailed laid out thing of what his at home practice was, it was hugely involved with that. That was the first topic of the two to five minute session. So I've been practicing this move at home with the conscious effort on the command pole to visualize positively moving with the flash, and then fully mounting smoothly with the right hand, locking the Mount in place. And finally, finally finishing the move with the core rotation of the body. But the main focus is the right hand smoothly locking in the mound. I'm gonna just gonna say the front hand smoothly locking in the mouth. Needless to say the first shot was a miss and the perception from my post shot analysis was that I'd gotten completely out of sync with the movement of the target as I tried to focus intently on the feeling of my right hand in the mount. So what he's saying is that because I was very consciously focused on my body I really struggled to proprioceptive ly connect to the bird in a way that allowed me to be in, in sync with my movement, or to create harmony with my movement and the target. I continued, and it didn't take more than a few shots to sink in with the target, again, with my peripheral vision. While continued, while consciously feeling the physical movement, of mounting smoothly with my front hand, it also period, it also didn't take long for me to feel a flow sensation in the physical movement of what I was doing and to recognize when I had not achieved a smooth, full mount with the front hand. I'm gonna read that again, because that was kind of important. I continued, and it didn't take more than a few shots to sync with the target. Again, with my peripheral vision, while consciously feeling the physical movement of mounting smoothly with my front hand, it also did not take long for me to feel that flow sensation in the physical movement of what I was doing, and to recognize when I hadn't achieved a smooth, full mount with the front hand. So very cool. Basically, he's saying that did not take them a long time to be able to recognize when it was good versus bad. Bringing that dopamine thing I did 30 shots, high four and 30 shots low for to get a feel for it from both sides of the swing, or rotation. I really enjoyed feeling the heightened sensation of feedback from my body while shooting, which is usually in the background when I'm fully fixated on the target or the method I'm applying to that particular presentation. So I'm going to paraphrase that. He's saying that basically doing that allowed him to basically he very successfully influenced where and what his sensory perception was queued up on. And because of the fact that he had consciously chosen and successfully executed, being able to be consciously aware of the thing that he was trying to learn while he was shooting, he noticed that it was a little harder to be able to consciously connect his eyes to the bird. But he was getting so much more sensory feedback of the movement of his body that he normally is unable to achieve when he's just looking at the bird and really cares about hitting very, very cool to experience that very, very important that he did. The fact that this, the fact that this was a target that I knew very well meant that I broke a lot of targets, even when distracted by my focus on the physical movement. It also felt like on a handful of shots, which broke that they were the result of a proprioceptive movement by my subconscious, which gave me quite a unique feeling posed to shot. But the awareness and the feedback I was getting from this approach to practice gave me the confidence to try the same approach on a more challenging target. Very cool. I am not 100% Sure, but I'm interpreting that as saying that. So he said it also felt like on a handful of shots, which broke that they were the result of a proprioceptive movement by my subconscious, which seems like basically what he's saying is that there were a few shots that broke where maybe because of what my conscious focus was on, I didn't have really the best possible connection with the bird and proprioceptive ly. Like, non consciously those CPG central pattern generators took over the control of my body and kind of adjusted non consciously to put the gun in the correct place to be able to break the bird. That's really, really cool. And actually a topic that I'm going to dive really heavily into, not in this episode, because I actually want to do a whole recorded episode on it. Long story short, I got a email from somebody in Europe, I don't remember what country and he said that, you know, the listening to the most recent episode on that neurology based approach to learning that and when I got into how the eyes worked and how the proprioceptive relationship between the body and the visual information that we get from the eyes, how that works and how it needs to work to be how those two parts of your body and brain need to communicate to be able to do that success. That's really makes a lot of sense to him. But he has been told by even somebody who has won a world championship, that you need to be able to maintain awareness of the gun consciously during the shot, in order to make a conscious correction if you put the gun in the wrong place, and you want to meet to answer that question, like, why did why are you saying something different than what this other person who has won a world championship said? And? And can? Can we like dive deep into that? And that's a fascinating question. And there I there, there is actually a lot of really cool research behind that. Not in shooting, but in some other stuff. And I actually have some amazing videos that I have taken in lessons to demonstrate things to students, not of Me of them shooting, where we can see kind of the real answer to that question. So I'm gonna go into that in another episode. But basically, he's experiencing that here, he's experiencing that you don't have to make a conscious correction. If you're in the wrong place, and if you're doing the correct thing that actually non consciously slash proprioceptive ly, your brain can and will put the gun in the correct place to be able to break the bird. Awesome. little detail to include there.
David Radulovich
02:16:29So one of my focuses for improvement this year is on long high tower shots. I shot a registered tournament at a tournament at a club in England last Friday and using the suggestions for improvement from issue to analysis sheet, I shot my best score at that shoot. So saying that he ran a shoot analysis sheet had told him what areas to focus on to improve and he focused on those and had a really good round. I performed a lot better by applying greater value to my awareness during the shoot. However, I became unstuck on on stand 10 got stressed with a good overhead target on report to along right to left 90 millimeter from a 60 foot tower, resulting in two out of 10. So I decided to work on a single target at another club from their 100 foot tower. The stand was 80 yards from the tower and the target was 100 100 feet up in the air right to left crossing standard black target. curling away, probably arriving at the breakpoint 50 yards out, I shot 100 shells at this target and again focused on my right hand well focused on his front hand, because he's a left handed shooter focused on his front hand smoothly locking into a full mount from an out of cheek mount, I have to say I missed a lot. But when I made a good move and the target broke, I could really tell what my body had done in the move with good sensory feedback. I could also remember the feeling of the movement with the target and the post shot analysis. Ultimately, I probably missed as many as I hit. But when I hit them, the target seemed clear and slow. And the brakes were really good. The result of this practice is I've achieved the new mental picture of these targets when they break and the feeling my body has when I'm making a good connected move. Super, super cool email. I'm going to if as I'm reading this, if you guys have any questions about anything that I'm reading, or if I went over something too fast, feel free to say that in the chat. The so then he ends it with I've got a shoot analysis sheet to submit for that tournament last Friday, and I'm shooting a registered tournament EJ Churchill's tomorrow, and he's referencing the one that he shot really bad at. I'll try again as suggested in the shoot analysis sheet to have greater awareness of my shooting through the competition and revert to focusing on the target and letting my body be be proprioceptive to the movement. Okay, so first off, fantastic email, fantastic effort and commitment to what you're doing great feedback, you're on an awesome track. I'm gonna go back now and read that first thing that I started off with and answer that question. So it says I literally just got back from the EJ Churchill shoot, where I had an absolute shocker this after having a very good practice session yesterday, I shot a 6320 targets under my current average with a car that looks like Swiss cheese with no real pattern to the missus, just wildly inconsistent across the 12 stands. So I'll go through your shoot analysis sheet to analyze it as best as I can. But it's hard for me to say where exactly my mind is on a post shot analysis as I felt smooth and in control with my body movements, but clearly had no connection with the target, or where to pull the trigger. And then you attach the card. Okay, so here is what happens. As you can see, that was a fantastic effort to apply all of the stuff that we're talking about in
David Radulovich
02:20:24Sorry, I was reading comments, as you can see that he put a fantastic effort into applying all of the things that we've talked about in the episodes that we've referenced in the live videos, and, and even experienced his highest score ever in a tournament. While trying to do that, then took information from that tournament, from his post shot analysis and his own notes in terms of what type of target that he struggled with and how he felt and that kind of stuff, and then apply that to a new planned practice went out and practiced it doing setting it up in the way that we referenced in the last recorded episode, where we have a conscious plan of where we're going to divert our attention to not focusing on the burr being very physically self aware, to allow for proprioceptive feedback, running post shot analysis, every time you shoot to try to relive that shot, understand what happened and cue your awareness to what's happening, then went out to a second tournament and just bombed. Okay, the obviously I was not there to see. But I have done this enough with the all of the students that I have taken through this aspect of of coaching, to understand that this is a very, very common experience. And basically what happens is that this is kind of like a perfect example, because the first tournament that he went to, he shot the best scorer he's ever shot. But oh boy, hold on, cameras going wild. But, and then went through and did that type of practice again, and then went to another tournament and bombed. And so basically, what happens here is that number one, we, from his notes, it looks like the practice session that he had, on the towers after his first tournament, was actually a much better example of being able to be consciously aware to his physical body moving, he was basically able to, to very easily re devote, no reassign his his sensory perception to the physical movements of his body as he was taking the shots. And he was getting really good feedback in terms of what just happened in the shot that he just took. It seemed like a little bit better than the first practice, also take into account that that first practice was a target that he was very comfortable with. The mistake that was made, I would assume whether it was on purpose, or on accident, was that that second tournament that he went to, probably had too much attention directed towards how his body felt. And this goes into what I talked about in that second recorded episode of how the eyes work, where they may just take one step back and pull up again, he said that he could feel smooth physical connection to the bird, he could feel a smooth physical controlled movement, but he was having a really hard time feeling a connection to the target. And now let's go back to the information we talked about with the eyes. In the last episode, we have those two different styles of ocular movement, the psychotic movement, and the smooth pursuit movement. And we already defined that in order to engage smooth pursuit movement, we need to have attention, our conscious attention directed towards the target that we're shooting, or whatever it is in our vision that we're trying to engage that attention to. And I'll demonstrate that again right here so you can see my eyes. And this would be an example of smooth pursuit ocular movement. I'm going to have to use my finger so you can see what's happening is that my eyes are moving very cleanly, very smoothly. And they're completely attached to that finger because I'm consciously deciding to pay attention to it and lock my, my ocular movement onto it. The other style of vision is psychotic movement. And that looks like this. So you see snappy movement in the eyes. Without something in our vision, to that we're consciously paying attention to, it's not neurologically possible to engage that smooth pursuit style of vision, or ocular movement, I should say. And so what that means is that, let's say this way, it can get confusing and thinking that we have to have something in our vision that's moving to engage smooth pursuit vision. But that's not the case, it can be that we are paying attention to something that is moving. And that engages smooth pursuit vision, because it uses a different neurological pathway to control those muscles. Or we can be looking at something that's fixated or static and non moving, but move our head, or be moving in a car. Both of those are engaging in smooth pursuit vision. And because that is defined as requiring conscious attention. If we also have some level of conscious attention on the way that our body feels, while we're making that movement, regardless of the percentage of that, we're not able to engage 100%, smooth pursuit, ocular movement, because we aren't able to engage 100% of our conscious attention on seeing the target. So what happens what's very easily, what can very easily happen is that we kind of mix up what we are supposed to pay attention to when. And in a tournament, unless we're using it as a test for something, we don't want to pay attention to the way that our body feels in the shot. And I'm going to define in the shot as between the moment that we call pull and pull the trigger, both times if it's a pair, we don't want to be paying attention to how our body feels we want to be paying 100% attention to seeing the target. And that's why a lot of coaches tell you to you know, see the rings or whatever it's just a conscious placebo to attach your attention to, if you're looking for something on the target attention is attached to the target. And that engages that style of vision. So essentially, what's happening is that because even at five to 10% level of dedication to being consciously aware of how the body feels, which I know happened, because of his what he explained, which I'll read it again. And it says it's hard for me to say exactly where my mind is on a post shot analysis as I felt smooth and in control with my body movements, but clearly had no connection to the target and were to pull the trigger. So he's feeling the smoothness of his body, but has no connection to the target. Which basically is indicative of that at least some portion of his conscious attention is on the body. And so he's not able to engage 100% Smooth pursuit vision. So as he's making a shot happen between calling pull and pulling the trigger, his eyes are engaged maybe in a blend of smooth pursuit and psychotic movement, and he's got little snappy movements of his eyes. And that's going to make the target look faster, it's going to give us less detail on the bird. And the brain cannot proprioceptive ly connect the movement of your body to the target if it isn't appropriate, if it isn't connected to the target visually using smooth pursuit vision. So that's why it would feel really good but also completely disconnected. So essentially what we want to do, like I said, in tournaments that we're trying to score well on, don't care, or pay attention to how your body feels during the shot. only pay attention to the target and practice. That's the time to be able to focus all of that attention to to the body. But basically, you want to completely forget about it in a match. If you were to watch me shoot a tournament. If you were to take a lesson from me on a Friday, and then come and watch me shoot around on a Saturday, you may possibly see that the physical movements that I'm making are not what I gave you a lesson on on Friday. That's not because I'm choosing to do something different. That's because currently in my state of my game I have, I probably still need to practice some of those physical mechanics, but I'm not going to be paying attention to them in the match. So what's going to end up being proprioceptive ly executed in my body are the things that are that are fully committed to basically the the
David Radulovich
02:30:08the neurological signals sent by those central pattern generators to my muscles that are fully committed to being non conscious. And that's generally the things that are not good that we're trying to undo consciously in practice. So what we want to do is shoot in practice consciously focused on the bird, run a shoot analysis sheet, or if we can take videos and watch or if you just happen to take a shot, and you can tell what happened physically, you know, make notes of those things. And then in practice, that's when we become very consciously aware of our body to try to try to reprogram the neurological signals being sent by the brain non consciously and proprioceptive ly, so that when we go to a tournament, again, the correct thing happens. So do I'm gonna, that's my answer that question. And I'm also going to say that that's going to happen to a lot of you, I've already gotten some feedback from some of you that it has happened. And I would say this. And I'm also would say that I'm sorry, my dog is going wild in the background. But I would say this, if that happens to you, in a tournament, don't be discouraged. Because yeah, it is a bummer to shoot a low score, but you actually should be hugely encouraged and excited, because what you were able to do is something that is very hard to do, you just did it in the wrong place in time. So pull that new learned, you know, approach to physical awareness during shooting into your practice. But, you know, pat yourself on the back that you messed up in that way, so to speak. But I'm gonna leave it open to just, if any of you have any questions on that, or have a similar experience, let me know in the comments, I'm just gonna go grab a drink of water real quick and come back in like 30 seconds. And I'll monitor the questions here.
David Radulovich
02:32:07Okay, so some of you who are unable to or don't have a YouTube account texted me. And so it's looking like a lot of you have experienced this. So it's, and I've experienced it in exactly the same way. So that's, basically take that as fact that that that does happen if we do that it's a normal thing. So don't freak out about it, you're on the right track, you just accidentally did the wrong thing at the right at the wrong time, or that did the right thing at the wrong time. So very cool. Oh, and that's here. So cool. Man, we just finished talking about your whole situation. If you want, I believe in the live streams, you can, you can scroll back, if you do want to listen, but if it's 2am, maybe you'll want to, maybe you'll want to do it tomorrow or something. But basically, while you're awake right now, long story short, what we said was that you just basically took your the thing that you were trying to assign in your sensory perception. I can't talk you misaligned what you were consciously paying attention to even just subtly and it detracted from your ability to engage in 100% Smooth pursuit vision with the bird, because there was some conscious attention on how the body felt during the shot. And that would make you feel your body so you'd be aware of your body. And that's how you would know if it was smooth and in control. But it would be it would make it very, very hard for you to proprioceptive ly connect to the movement of the bird because the eyes aren't proprioceptive ly connected to the movement of the bird. So long story short, no reason to worry. A lot of people experienced that. Yeah, words are hard Austin. And so a lot of people experienced that. And it's basically a natural progression in this process of just learning how to do this. I will say though, that what that experience entails is actually very valuable to try to consciously decide to do in those testing tournaments and you don't just have to focus on you know, your routine style things in a tournament as a test. But you can go to a tournament and decide like, Hey, I'm I'm going to consciously pay attention to my body, maybe 50% body 50% visual attention to the bird knowing that it's going to negatively influenced my score. But I'm going to gain a little bit of knowledge and understanding like when I have a little bit of tournament pressure, does my body does the does the response of my body and my ability to control my body in certain ways get changed at all by those emotions. And the answer is, yes, it does. But for every person, it's different and it is sometimes valuable to understand that correct words matter. Okay, so let's go to the second submission
David Radulovich
02:35:44this one is by Brad Willis in Australia. Very cool. And Brad also sent me a picture. Today I have him listening to the dead pear podcast on his looked like back porch or something, and he had three kangaroos in his backyard. So that's freaking cool. Very cool. But so let's go into that I'm gonna pull. Let me pull up his stuff that he sent me. And we'll switch over to that
David Radulovich
02:36:40Okay, so here is Brad's stuff, or is it right here? Okay. This is a he has a question that he gets into after this, that I'm not going to read until I get through going through some of his stuff. But I'll I'll show it and read it out to you guys. So basically, what he did here was out on paper, he laid out the structure of his practice, he put together you know, a goal. You know, kind of taking the whole approach to goal setting for the whole year and putting it into practice sessions gave himself a goal for the practice to improve his skeet doubles game, a little mini goal is learned to hit age two with greater consistency. So that's high house on the number two station, I'm assuming, which is considered to be the hardest target for most people in skate at and then the specific thing that he wanted to like highlight and focus on is needing to relearn or overwrite making a smooth move on the target. So he's going to tend to attach that sensory perception to his physical movement in his body, and trying to feel it being experienced in a certain way. Very cool. So here is a little bit of a layout of kind of like prior to the practice, some of the stuff that he was experiencing, this is important to take notes on if you want to get everything out of it. Because, you know, like, for example, what I did throughout my whole career and continue to do now is that that like stream of consciousness Voice Memo notes, I do those during important moments when I noticed that something could possibly be relevant for in the future. You know, keeping track of how he's saying here, like good night's sleep, weather conditions is hydration and electrolytes, eyedrops, what time he's shooting, how much he's shooting, that kind of stuff is really helpful, because you can actually pull that data into making helping yourself make decisions on when you schedule events during tournaments. Noticing, you know, like, I've found that there's a certain amount of hours and quality of sleep that I need to get to be able to focus and perform at my highest level, which is actually a number that is a little bit counterintuitive. If I get like eight hours of sleep, I actually found that I have too much physical energy, and easily can make a bad move on a bird because of the extra energy. And because of my ADHD, if I get that much sleep, like my brain kind of goes a little too fast. And I can get a little over analytical in the round whereas about six hours of quality sleep for me is basically perfect where it leaves me feeling like I have have the perfect amount of energy to control the gun in as little in with as much finesse and small, slow, detailed move as moves as possible. And it allows me to have a good clarity of thought. If you're, if you're paying attention to this right now, and you've listened to other live podcasts, you could probably make the assumption based off what I just said that I got a lot of sleep last night, because I'm having a hard time presenting this information because my brain keeps going out of my mouth. Anyways, so there's that information. One thing I liked, that he said is that he wants wants to wake up and not get too amped. I'm taking that as kind of trying to go along with what we talked about, or what I talked about in the recorded episode in terms of the perfect scenario to practice, which is not starting the day off with too much dopamine so that you have a greater Delta, of dopamine levels between when you do something good and what your baseline is, that's going to more easily allow the brain to kind of like pre program and save those good experiences for later on to be learned faster. The so here's page two, how am I going to go about this. So 125 Target round from high house to consciously focusing on creating a new feeling, by paying attention to and getting feedback to the on his rotation and his body and his tension, regardless of if he breaks the target. So he's laying that out very, very important. And then second round of 25 targets, from high house to sticking to his plan, not deviating regardless of results, and using some self analysis and feedback to establish and adjust positively towards improving and grooving something with repetition. So a slightly modified focus set for the second round. But it's good that he's not trying to do those in between shots. He's segmenting them to allow for some, basically, to allow for a consistent topic of focus, which I talked about in that last recorded episode very, very important that we don't keep changing things that we're paying attention to, we stick to one later on. You'll see in here that after that first one, he's he kind of takes a break and does some stuff and processes some things and make some decisions and goes into that second round with a different outlook on some things. That's good, because he's not only is it good to make the adjustments, but it's also good, because what it allows for is a little bit of a segmentation of experience of experienced motor control movement, so that you can better basically, catalog what's happening proprioceptive ly. So here's the real deal of what happened. Pretty much self awareness and preparedness aspect was experienced as he planned. His first 25 He got to shoot. At 11 o'clock am it was really hot, 95 degrees Fahrenheit, and I'm guessing 80% humidity, good light, no, in really high fatigue conditions, this is really cool that he's adding this kind of stuff, because it helps him that if you are writing notes like this and keeping them, it's so easy to go back to and pull valuable information from because you may find that certain things that you do are certain things that you're paying attention to, you know, correspond to external environmental situations that you can't control, and that'll help you better perform in those situations in the future. For this round, he had somebody pushed the button for him behind while he worked his routine. I didn't hit a thing until the 12th target. So 50% through he had missed every single one. But he stuck to his plan 100% of not focusing on the break and gaining feedback and feel what I determined was it felt right and I was making the same move consistently every time if it feels hit. And he has a little question here if it feels right and looks right, why doesn't it break. So it's good that he's doing that stick? You know, what I like to see here is that halfway through his first attempt for this practice, he wasn't kind of abandoning it to try to hit the bird. He was maintaining that same focus set that same category of sensory perception that he'd assigned conscious awareness to. Very, very important for the for what you're about to see on the next page. He says the observer commented, you're doing the exact same move, not changing. Even though he thought he was doing something consciously. And he did it, he then started to do that empty shell routine and not firing for a couple of rounds, and then went live again, looked at some external phone footage for a couple of shots and his rotation and move look good. This is another really good thing. If you practice by yourself, you can get a little tripod to put your phone on to record yourself. And, and then after you record, go back and look, I do that all the time. If I don't have a tripod, I'll put the phone up like on the stand or something. And I like to shoot. If I'm shooting singles, I shoot a full box straight or if I'm shooting pairs, I shoot two boxes. So 25 reps, basically, regardless of what I'm shooting, and I'll just take videos of 25 reps at a time. And then in the moment of time that I'm going back to take a break in between sessions of reps. I'm watching the video to see the consistency of what I'm doing and look at if there's anything that I didn't pick up back pick up on with proprioceptive feedback.
David Radulovich
02:46:11He says the moves again felt right to me. But the result of the move only hit a couple more and the next 13 targets he did the empty shell routine a couple more times. And that last 13 shots. He also observed that the more he was being drawn towards the outcome, the tighter and more tense his body got in his rotation. His hands wanted to grip the forehand tighter. And with profuse sweating and internal irritation like emotional annoyance, and annoyance of dripping sweat, steaming glasses, and general uncomfortableness all came to the forefront. This is something that a lot of you will experience if you're doing it this way. It's very, very important that if you're taking this approach to practice, which is obviously a very valuable way to practice, that at the moment that those types of emotions start to come up that you don't abandon your plan, it's going to be so easy to abandon the plan because the way to feel like you would get out of those experiencing those emotions would be to start hitting the bird. But all that means is that you're conscious, if you start to feel that you'll it means that you're consciously assigning your attentiveness and attention to your proprioceptive feedback in whatever area you're focusing on. But your value is you're placed slightly on the spectrum of the result of the shot. And so just go back and reposition and redefine what you really care about as that information. And every time you take a shot if you can play it back and re live what it felt like and you could answer the question, what did that shot feel like, then allow yourself to feel good about that, because that doesn't happen if you're caring about the target. He at that point did some breathing exercises that Don grant recommended from some hypnosis videos. And he tried to slow his brain down, he stopped it from racing and realized that there was going on an important to control. So that's basically what I was talking about there. Like the what's really important to note is that annoyance, anxiety you know, loss of presence in thought all of those things translate to physical tension. And physical tension translates to bad movements. So he recognized earlier that he was getting more tense in his hands and his body, which is not going to allow him to make good moves. But it's good that he's recognizing that. Because it's cueing his awareness of that and over time, he will learn very easily that say like in a match something that could cue up in his like, using pret I in my shoot analysis sheet, I call it presence of self. But in that presence of self or that physical self awareness, or emotional self awareness, to independent categories, he may start to notice that he's getting frustrated for whatever reason. And because of this individual experience, he might say, hey, when I get frustrated or annoyed, or when I start to lose presence in my thought, that causes physical tension, I may not be able to feel it right now, because I'm trying to pay attention visually to the bird. But I know that that is there because of my prior experience in practicing. So let me just try to decrease physical tension and in the process of decreasing physical tension, I can actually help myself relieve my emotional stress. So at that point, you took a 15 minute break he rehydrated and did some more self analysis off the field in a more hospitable shady spot. So that's wonder if there's any kangaroos and let's See
David Radulovich
02:50:05in sitting that 15 minute session, he decided that he has to keep moving on MER decided that I have a move going on that appears okay externally and feels smooth internally. But the picture isn't matching the move. There's some kind of timing action between my move and visual input. Okay, I wish I could not show the bottom half of that I am when you watch this, if you're watching, unless you're watching it right now. That is such a high level of self awareness. And very good observation. And I'm, before I move forward, I'm going to blame now actually, it kind of answers your question, so I'm not gonna explain that the yet. But really, really important point very cool that that, that that experience became a, like he was aware of that happening and he made the subtle differentiation he was aware of the subtle differentiation between the fact that physically everything was feeling good, and he may even have been seeing it okay, but that there was a timing action, that timing is the key word here and it's very cool that he noticed that and we'll explain that in the answer to what his question was after all of this. So then it goes into the second 25 still same position Hi, house station two, he went back back out to the layout this time alone with a voice release still objective is basically saying the objective is still that regardless, I was sticking to my plan, I was there to focus on my feel and smoothness not be swayed by outcome. He decided to move his whole point in closer towards the towards the trap the shoot as must be an Australian thing. Then his normal setup to where his peripheral was just picking up the trap but in relayed focus my eyes were off the gun and up in the flight path. The I can't there's a word there I don't know what that little confused by that term peripheral was just picking up the end of the shoot but in relaxed focus, my eyes were off the gun and up in the air. Okay, I'm gonna guess there's a period after relaxed focus that's not on the thing. So he's saying that he moved this whole point in at two up and moved his focal point in to where peripherally he was able to see the trap coming. The target moving in his outside center ocular peripheral vision and had the gun on the line of the target. He consciously went through a pre shot routine with a breakpoint whole point setting his eyes as described above, the picture was slightly different to what was normal for me and definitely not running on automatic slow and deliberate actions. He relaxed his eyes made sure his eyes made sure my eyes had the gun and called pull the move felt absolutely perfect and effortless. Let the shot go and the target dust as a result. Okay, didn't get excited, but slow and deliberate, repeated exact same conscious setup got exact same feeling feedback and result. The so basically, what's happening here is just in that 25 shot first round, he was able to get enough feedback on that to make adjustments for what to change. And what we're seeing here actually is a little bit of a blend between conscious attention on the body and conscious attention on the target. But but it actually looks like a vast majority of it on the target. But because of the cued awareness of the body from the prior experience, he's kind of able to run and push out analysis and feel what's happening. He repeated this and ran the next six in a row before Miss occurred. He could feel in his move from paying attention to the feedback that two misses occurred in a row. His hands felt he felt his hands gripping the four end to tighten. His rotation was tighter than the previous six. Going back to how he brought that up in the first part. It's easy to miss 25 rabbits in a row. He did two cycles with empty shell And after those did some of those breathing exercises. And again, everything was spot on just getting control of things, again, proceeded to do exactly the same as described above and ran another eight using conscious process of the body and deliberate but in portly, the feel was smooth and effortless. It just happened and was repeatable. Had another miss and again, could feel it was tension related. And the move felt stiff and robotic, didn't flow could just tell, stepped off the pad and did the breathing stuff again for approximately three minutes. And then back to the task.
David Radulovich
02:55:41The oh, let's do this one. Actually, no, let's go back. Okay, so one thing, one thing I want to bring up is this breathing, exercise these breathing exercises that he's bringing up. And that's actually incredibly important to allow your eyes to work correctly. So an increase in oxygen to the bloodstream through Breathing in breathing exercises, actually, will kind of this is very unscientific explanation. But it mixes with some other neurotransmitters that are released in the brain, like dopamine, adrenaline, and some other stuff. And if you keep your oxygen levels up, it'll actually allows your eyes to send data to your brain at a higher frame rate, so to speak, which allows the target to look slower to you consciously. So he's kind of like pre loading oxygen by doing these techniques, and it's helping his eyes work better. He's also putting a huge emphasis on his routine in this round, as opposed to the first one, putting much more of an emphasis on his eyes allowing the eyes to settle paying conscious attention to what's outside center ocular, which is the target coming out of the chute on the left. So there's a little bit more conscious attention to his vision here, which is allowing all this stuff to happen. But he is still consciously aware of his body. He was able to run the next 10 straight with no mess but was focused on just doing the same setup, and feeling that it was completely effortless every shot no matter what also noticed that the last 10 targets that things started to run on autopilot with the setup time shortening, but feeling and feedback was the same in the last 10 targets started rewarding yourself with a bit of positive self talk and guess letting the dopamine flow very good. After completing the last shot, I ran through things with a gun in hand and eyes shot visualizing those last 10 shots on the pad. Also notice that in the last 25 I didn't sweat or feel as uncomfortable even though it was bloody hot. Nothing like that first 25 went undercover rehydrated, and although excited, tried to remain low key for Dr. Home. So the interesting to note that his physiological response was different in that second 25 In the first 25. So now let's get to the question that he had. Switch my camera
David Radulovich
02:58:32so his question was, what would you put down to be behind such a marked change between the first training block and the second training block outcomes in the scenario presented, I can only assume the strategies employed, appealed and aligned to the brain's learning capacity. And I was able to overwrite an existing habit or execution mode very quickly and positively by being receptive and possibly from having done quite a bit of Dawn grants, audios prior with a key a key one of hers being hypnosis for change. So I don't know some of the stuff that Don grant talks about. But yes, basically, if you put together all the stuff that I was talking about where for that second 25, you seem to have been more consciously focused on the eyes. But you were still not 100%, though, but you were still getting the feedback that you were looking for and doing in the first 25. And so it actually looks to me that in that in those first 25 shots, you were actually successful enough from being consciously aware of the body that you were able to kind of like non consciously cue what you wanted to do proprioceptive ly and just gave yourself a little bit better visual feedback to allow the body to synchronize with that. If we get go, I'm just going to read the one part that I said I wanted to talk about I'm with the eyes. So basically what was going on? Where is it? Okay, so I'm going to read this part it says in sitting in that 15 minute break, I decided that I have a move going on that appears okay externally and feel smooth internally. But the picture isn't matching the move. There's some kind of timing action between my move and visual input. So I said that timing thing is really, really important. The reason why it's really, really cool that he noticed that was because in an effort to pay all of his conscious attention towards that proprioceptive feedback in his body, it did not allow him to have conscious attention to his vision. And if you notice what he changed for the second 25, in terms of where he started his eyes, and the fact that he specifically said that he had peripheral awareness of the shoot ie the hole in the high house. That means that he's he's drawing conscious attention to a specific part of his vision outside of Senator ocular, in order to do like, it's very easy to pay attention to the thing that's in the middle of your vision, which is called center ocular, it's very easy to pay attention to that, it is not very easy to look at something and pay attention to something out here. And so that requires a good amount of conscious attention to the vision, which is going to attract a little bit of conscious attention from the body. But it looks like from what happened there that there was enough basically, imprinting of that, of those of that circuitry neurologically to control what you were trying to do that you were able to dedicate a portion of your attention to your vision, and it was able to happen unconsciously physically, in terms of your movement. And so in that first 25, when we're paying attention all to the body, because we're not paying attention to the eyes, reaction time off of your vision is hugely and negatively influenced. So basically, what was happening was you were feeling a good move, and you were making the correct move at smelt, smelt, it felt controlled and fluid. But it was all happening at the wrong time in relation to the bird, when you put more attention towards your vision, and paying attention to where the bird was coming out, it queued the start of the move that you had been working on to happen at the first visual stimuli that happened, which was the bird coming out in your peripheral. And so that movement happened more in time with the bird, which is actually kind of the definition of that proprioceptive movement. So it's very cool that that happened. I think a huge proponent of that was the fact that you took the break, you know, rehearsed everything visually in your head, went through ransom post shot analysis, and then made some change based off of the feedback that you got very cool experience. And I wanted to bring that I wanted to use this example as something that you know, is possible to experience in practice if you do this type of stuff, but it's very important that you do what he did. Which is you know, resist the urge to flip what you're focusing on. And don't follow those frustrating emotions of man I'm having hitting anything and 12 targets I really want to just try to hit this bar because the fact that he stayed consciously attentive to that one thing on that one target 25 times in a row, possibly more with the, the, you know, taking the shells out and doing it. It just that just really, really brought up some very, very valuable information that seemed to have imprinted quickly. Awesome. Awesome, like super awesome. Okay, so let's see. There are a huge amount of big questions in the chat. So
David Radulovich
03:04:51I'm going to answer three of them. Three questions that I got an email as you guys Go through and possibly ask for clarification on anything. Or give a question that you want me to cover in the chat. And, and then after I answer those three, then I'll go through and answer all of them in the chat. So I'm going to change this little thing
David Radulovich
03:05:40Okay, so this is from Austin. This first question is I've been having problems with leading birds such as Shondells and different angled crossers, would you recommend just going to the course finding the difficult shots and grinding them out? Basically, what I would my advice to you on that would be yes, you do want to go through a huge amount of reps quickly on birds like that. If there's a specific target that you're struggling with, going and just grinding out that target is really good, both for the fact that you gain confidence and experience on it. But also so that you can learn. But the thing that I would advise you on is that if you do go to the course, and you're grinding out those targets, don't be grinding out those targets, with folk conscious focus on what the lead in sight picture looks like. What I would want you to pay attention to is feeling in your body, if there's a moment in time on those shots, that you feel a disconnect in the harmony between your movement and the target to movement. And then overt from shot to shot to shot paying attention to only that trying to make modifications, all focusing towards the goal of making that shot feel harmonic from start to finish. And basically what you're going to be doing is you'll be making, you'll be picking something to change, and execute in the next shot. And there's a high probability that that thing won't change the result. But because you'll be focusing on how it feels through the process of doing that you're going to learn a lot about what works and what doesn't. The next question is, would it be worth finding a coach to grow with me instead of an instructor to take lessons from a couple of times per year? I mean, everybody would probably be able to assume my answer to that question, which would be, you know, that yes, I mean, I'm a huge proponent of coaching, as opposed to instruction. But it's also important to note that the person that like, for example, I am an instructor to some of my students, and I'm a coach to some of my students, and it's all dependent on the student. You know, like the how you want to take lessons, and how you approach taking lessons and how you communicate to the person that you take lessons from, will influence that one of the things that I always tried to do in the beginning of a lesson is I asked my student, you know, okay, so what's your lowest hanging fruit right now? And what is it that if you could leave the lesson today? If I could only accomplish one thing with you? What would that one thing be for you to feel like this was completely worth your time? And the so I listened to that response to that, and I incorporate that into the lesson. But if that's the only thing that the lesson is about, that is more of instruction, because you're taking a problem and you're correcting the problem. And then the next time you have a problem, you book a lesson and hopefully correct that problem with that person. And that would be instruction. But what I tried to do is take that incorporated into the lesson, but also take the whole overarching picture of the student from all of the lessons that I've had with that person. And critically and analytically think, Okay, this is the whole package that we have right now. Where what's the next step in building them towards what I know through communication and conversation with them, that they are trying to get to as an end result of how they approach shooting as a sport, a hobby or a career. So, coaching, in my opinion, is building somebody up over time and instruction is correcting mistakes and, and like tuning up. So you know, not everybody has the ability to number one communicate with you to understand what your end goal is and what you want to take out of shooting. And then take that communication and information that was given in that communication and put together a path forward over a certain amount of time, and then actually execute that with you as a coach. So you have to find somebody that can do that. And that has enough experience and teaching people to get to whatever level that they want to understand the path that you need to take, because an instructor gives you the answers, as soon as you ask for them, but a coach is going to give you answers and give you certain specific skill sets or abilities in a very specifically determined timetable. Because you don't want to just throw everything at somebody at once you, you need to based off of what their goals are and shooting, step by step, give them the stuff to work on. That builds their game, from the foundation up over time. So with that being said, to find a coach also requires a commitment for you to listen to the advice that that coach says on how often that they think that you should have lessons. And, and what the path forward would look like for you. So I always recommend that type of approach to learning if you want it, but not everybody wants it. And so, you know, I mean, I have some people that that shoot two or three times a year and take a lesson once a year. And you know, they just want to learn to fix problems, and they would be less happy if I coached them. So I had to give them instruction. So good question. And then the last question I have here is that what is something that the shooting industry needs to help grow? My biggest answer to that is that the shooting industry needs content that is engaging, educational, interesting. And that promotes the fun and enjoyment of this game that you can get if you participate in it. It needs something like being able to go to the Golf Channel on TV and watch a tournament. And I think that that is never going to happen from a corporate standpoint. First, it's going to happen from an individual standpoint First, there's been a lot of attempts at professional organizations and TV shows and stuff like that. And they never work because the audience is not there yet. And so what has to happen is certain people need to build that. And over time, basically a lot Long story short, a great example of this is look at what happened to professional disc golf. And look at a YouTube channel called I think it's called Slow mez or something like that. Where basically the top pros in the game, started filming all of the disc golf tournaments, and then taking the footage, and the Monday after the event, adding commentary to it, and then posting it on YouTube that night so that if you weren't there and you like this golf, you can watch it as if it was live on TV with commentary by the best guys in the game, talking about the shots or talking about other people's shots. And you can experience the event as if you were there over time that built up to be big enough to develop a following in that sport that ended up on ESPN. That's a great approach. Okay, so now questions from chat. Let's see what we got.
David Radulovich
03:14:44I'm going to close this poll so that I can see the comments better.
David Radulovich
03:15:06Okay, so here's one from Sophia. It says, David, do you suggest focusing on mechanics or the mental game? First? I think trying to do both would be overwhelming. Hence, I haven't done my plan yet. Yeah, not a problem. So that's a great question. I would say, I'm going to summarize it, I'm going to summarize my answer to your question like this. Maybe about three months ago, I was on having a phone call with Wendell cherry, who, if any of you don't know who he is, he is another professional shooter, one of the best in the world, one of the best coaches in the world. He's the guy that taught me how to shoot. And we were both talking just randomly about a bunch of different topics. But then eventually, it led to the topic of coaching. And we started talking about how we approach lessons. And the topic that came up was how we coach. And the Wendell said, and I 100% agree with him, he made the comment of if for every person that we coach, that week, if if with every person that we have a lesson with that we started the lesson, or gave instruction on the thing that we know to be the most important thing to start, we would not have a business anymore, because nobody would come back. And I would completely agree with him. And so it's basically something that that we blend into the physical mechanics. But I would actually say that the most important thing to focus on first are the visual mechanics, learn how to use your eyes. And once you learn how to use your eyes correctly, at that point, you can start to learn the physical mechanics. And then at that, after that, you can start to learn the mental game. But the reality of it is that mental aspect is deeply ingrained in everything. Actually, in all honesty, those three things the mental, the physical, and the visual, the it's like a, it's like a symbiotic relationship between the three of them. But the eyes, you can take either, you can take all of those three things. And each one of them can independently be the dominant approach to the game, and it can influence the other two. But so like, if you have a poor mental game that allows that is going to influence how you see. And that's going to influence how you move, if you have bad mechanics, that's going to influence how you feel mental, which is going to influence how you see. But the thing that is the best way to go about it is build up your ability to use your eyes correctly, because that's going to give you the right visual information that you need. And the correct visual information is good visual information. And good visual information is slow looking targets, high levels of detail, a perceived larger amount of time where the bird is in the air. And all of those things influence your mental state during the round, or your practice where it's more calming, it does not induce very much anxiety or make you feel rushed. And, and both of those things, how you see it and how you're feeling while you're shooting will influence your ability to actually do what you have planned or want to do physically. So basically, what I'm saying is, the best place to start is to learn how to see the target in as much detail and as slow as you do when you're outside of the cage or the box and don't have a gun in your hands and you're looking at the view pair. If when you shoot you don't see the target as well as you do when you're just looking at the show pair and you're not using your hand. Both of your hands are down and nothing is in front of you and you're just looking at the targets. If you don't see the targets that Well, and that slow when you shoot than work on seeing, that's what I would say. And that would apply to everybody let's see
David Radulovich
03:20:38Austin says I wrote down two pages of stuff and already helping you plan my practices. So I get the most going to make a PDF tomorrow for Saturday practice will make blueprint fill in your own. I'll share Oh, that's very cool. I agree. I'm gonna I actually am going to be trying, I'm going to try to build a form that does that. Just like a shoot analysis sheet type thing, but something for practicing. Okay, so Curtis, I think has no no question. My moves smelt bad all through the Breeland. Today, I think I might stick it sporting clays. The cardones if you want to expound upon that a little bit, I can I can maybe, you know, unpack it some. But let's see. So any others? Anybody have any questions? Because if you don't have any questions yet, I'm gonna move on to the next topic. And that's going to get into some of the prepared information. So I'm going to I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm gonna leave it open for like 30 seconds, wait for any questions to come in? And then answered those if we have any, or if we don't have any, I'll just get right into the next topics.
David Radulovich
03:22:00And I will be right back. Keep this so I can pay attention.
David Radulovich
03:22:09Okay, bringing the gun over just in case we need it. Okay, so we do have a few questions. So this is going back to my first question, would it be beneficial to practice five stand more? For just leading if I can do certain targets? I'm struggling on leading. Austin, are you talking about like you just don't know the turnover? Just in case I need it. My phone is talking to me. Let's turn the volume off. So we don't get feedback. Are you talking about that you are having problems, knowing what the lead is to put on a bird and you're wanting to find a practice so you can learn that? Just just clarify that for me. And then just as if I only signed up for one, one hour lesson with a coach, can I call him my coach? Or would he be an instructor asking for a friend building up for one one at Well, I would for someone to be coaching you that that requires. You can't coach somebody in one session because coaching is building somebody up over time. And it you know, like in in one lesson, you can only instruct somebody because you the coaching requires influencing what somebody is doing, and influencing how someone is thinking and their approach to the game, not just their mechanics, and then having them leave and work on what you left them with get better at it and get to the point where they need the next thing and then they come back and over time you build that person into what they want to basically have as who they are as a final product as a competitor. But so it's not possible really to code somebody in a lesson the Trevor says what would you suggest the guy who can hit every target out there but can't consistently do it in the competition work on in practice? That's a good question. Trevor, can you will tell me in practice what your if you try to do a practice session based on like breaking a certain amount in a row. Let's say like if you were to do a practice if you've ever have I would imagine that you have where you like go to a stationary Alright, I want to shoot 20 pairs in a row. Do you ever work on practice? have routines where you're trying to build a consistency in the result of the shot? And if you do, let me know if you're able to do it in practice and just not competition? Or if you can't do it in practice, either. And often says yes, how much lead? Okay, so that's going to be a hard one to answer. Basically, my approach to that would be that if you are trying to in practice, learn lead, then you're you're conscious, what you're deciding what you're assigning your conscious attention to, is the wrong thing. Because I can, let's say a bird requires five feet of lead in front and two feet of lead below. To break the bird, I can put the gun there infinite, I can get the gun in that position and pull the trigger with infinite different forms of movement. And all but one of them will be good. So if we're focusing on learning lead, then quite possibly, you're teaching your brain to move in efficiently and incorrectly. And we don't want to do that, what we want to do is teach the brain to move correctly. And over time, if you teach that, if you practice that, then it will start to basically give you the results of a broken target without you focusing on the lead. And the way that you do that is to actually do what those guys that what those first two examples that that I brought up, where they're very heavily attentive to the way that their body feels in the shot. And they're searching for that harmony, and proprioceptive synchronization in their body and the and the target. And that's what they're looking like, that's what they're allowing their selves to care about. And that's what they're grading whether or not it was good or bad. Over time, if you continue to do that, then, and let's say you're experiencing that and not breaking the bird, the only thing that's happening is you're doing the movement correctly, you're just not synchronizing it with the target. And once that movement gets to be more non conscious, then you can attach more conscious attention to the target. And that movement will happen unconsciously while you're looking at the target. And it'll be synchronized and you'll break the target. A perfect example was the second practice routine that I talked about. And I know that that's frustrating to try to do. And it's kind of counterintuitive to think, How am I supposed to not pay attention to lead or why would I not want to, but it's because of what I just said, we can put the gun in the right place in the wrong way very easily. And we don't want to be practicing that. Because you're actually doing more harm than good in terms of being able to realize your full potential in the game because you'll be you'll be teaching yourself bad forms of movement that over time will have to be unlearned as opposed to initially learning the correct form of movement
David Radulovich
03:28:47galas here cool hey, Gala. gala says I have to focus so hard. My eyes are bad. Some shots, I feel my body movement. Usually I have hit that target shots where I remember what I saw last I have missed those. Is that why there's inconsistency shots where I remember what I saw last? Yes, absolutely. So if you're remembering what you saw last, then that means that your attention was put more towards the result of the shot. So if you go back and listen to the last recorded episode that I released on, you know how to optimize practice through, you know, actual neurology, one of the areas of focus that I had in that podcast was assigning your conscious attention his attention to something and if we are focusing on the bird and the result of the shot, then you won't feel your body and the gun will be placed a lot of times in the wrong place. Or you'll get bad visual information, because you're consciously paying attention to the wrong thing and your vision which is not allowing your eyes to engage in that smooth pursuit style of movement. It's basically the example of, you know, putting your finger in front of you, and focusing on your finger and you can allow your eyes to move smoothly using that smooth pursuit. Because your conscious attention is on the finger, the finger in the correct example would be your the target, we want the, we want the conscious attention of our eyes and our vision on the target so that our eyes do that. Now, in this new example, let's pretend now that the finger is the gun, or let's pretend pretend that the finger is the target still, and I want you to pay attention to you're seeing the target peripherally, but look off in front of it with your attention of your vision, and try to move your eyes smoothly. Without looking at that finger move and move your eyes in sync with your finger and you can't do it. That would be the equivalent of looking at and paying attention to the gap or the gun, where the target is more peripheral. And it doesn't allow us to engage that style of vision. And so then that proprioceptive feedback that's required, especially for you Gala, because of the eye dominancy is, it's just going to be no proprioceptive feedback, it's going to force you to place the gun unconsciously. And like what we said in the last lesson on that one station in the corner of the white course. How how we said, you know, I drew the little diagram of what you know, because of your AI dominancy. If you consciously see the gun, the place that you will see it to be is not really where it is. And so if you're constantly paying attention to it, that means you're consciously going to put it in a place that makes sense. And if you put it in a place that makes sense for you, then it's a guaranteed miss. Because that means it's not where it actually is based off of your eye dominancy. So that's why you're seeing inconsistency. Hopefully that answer helps. The Okay, so, duke says Not a question, but my wife showed me your video of you doing the Tyler Childers, nose to the grindstone. Yeah. Cool. Thank you, Duke. I appreciate that. Yeah, I like to in my free time, when I get some I love to play and sing some songs on the guitar. Can you guys ever interested in that and go to my, you can go to my Instagram channel and watch them. So Curtis says I tried to use my two selves with varying success in round. But as the round drew on, I got confused as to which state to be in and things sort of cascaded to varying states of discomfort in my own skin. Cool. I mean, unfortunate, but good information and feedback. Basically, what you want to do Curtis is make sure that you do some notes, or voice memo and basically structure it like this. Pull up, pull a picture of your scorecard up and say, you know, I started on this station, I was feeling like XYZ in terms of my focus and ability to focus. And I decided to respond to that with x, y, z. And my results were this when I went and I got to, you know, four stations in, I noticed that emotionally and focus wise, I started to feel like x, y, z. And so my plan was to change my approach to x, y, z. And it resulted in this and just summarize how that round went. And basically, as time goes by, you'll accumulate enough data that will show you what decisions to make at what times and emotional and focus states so that you can optimize those choices and avoid bad ones. But good. Trevor says I try working on breaking everything inside 3010 times in row I usually get it within two tries. And typically I finished better in events with harder targets. It's frustrating when I can finish top 50 and original and even HOA some side events have big glass but suck it up at local shoots. So Trevor, I know that you have ADHD and I am cannot with 100% Certainty tell you that that is not a product of your ability. That's a product of your ability to focus. And because at the big tournaments, you care more so you have more, but you basically have more on align, that gives you an ability to access a higher level of focus and presence in your mindset. And so you're able to actually put more attention in reading the birds and planning and having a good plan and being able to execute a good plan that aligns with what the presentation is. You can look up this thing, just Google search, ADHD and then space and then n, I see you scoring system. So it's the NICU scoring system, it stands for new, interesting, challenging or urgent. And basically, whatever you're doing the higher ranks in those four categories, the easier it will be for you to be able to focus and avoid procrastination, basically. And so essentially, what's happening is on harder targets, it draws your attention more because it's interesting and challenging. And at bigger tournaments that does the exact same thing. And that's a that's a hard thing to learn to manage. But I, I'll talk to you, well, I just kicked my camera, I'll talk to you personally on some ways to deal with that, because it's complicated and takes a long time to explain and go through and I want to make sure that I do it justice. The offseason feel like you should do it money will appreciate that. So if he says is there such a thing as having slow reaction from the eye to the trigger, I find I see the bird and move but hold off a long time on making the shot. Yeah, basically, what's happening is that that's essentially holding on to the shot to wait for conscious and visual verification that what you've done is correct. So basically, the first portion, whatever percentage it is that you feel like you're moving with the bird is done more proprioceptive ly, but at the moment that you get to the point where you know, you should pull the trigger, you are either afraid to because you don't know yet, if it's in the right place the gun, or you want to make sure that the gun is in the right place in some way. Whether that be because you're checking the lead, or you're just having hesitation in pulling a trigger, but anything anyways, that is
David Radulovich
03:37:29all together. That's an emotional, mental game type issue. And the way that you could combat that is basically you could do some practice drills, to work on that, to where basically you're you are pulling the trigger at the culmination of the execution of the plan to mechanics that you have, and, you know, force, force yourself to pull the trigger at a specific time, and completion of whatever move you're trying to make, and, and build it into high levels of reps. And eventually, over time, in that practice, you will see the break percentage start to go up. And just that in itself will build confidence. So the ways that you can other ways you can combat that are it's essentially a confidence based issue or a value placement issue. And you can you can reteach yourself to be able to not do that by either one, putting a lot of research into your planning to where you get to the point where you have a very good plan. And when you go to call pull, you know with 100% certainty, that that is the best possible thing that you know how to do. And that will relieve some of the stress and anxiety of not wanting to pull the trigger at the end of the at the end of those mechanics. Because basically, you'll, you'll be able to logically deduce that, you know, the if you allow the mechanics to happen, and you commit to them, that's the best shot that you haven't breaking, it doesn't ensure a break, but it's the best shot that you have of breaking it. And because we know that if we get conscious in the shot, it decreases our ability to hit because it's conscious and we can't proprioceptive ly connect, we don't get good visual information. And consciously, you can only compute one thing at a time. There's a there's a little thing I do with students sometime in a lesson where I give them the option. See if I can see both my hands I give them the option of picking. They can pick one of these hands and they can have whatever is in the hand. And so I say which one of these hands will you pick? Do you want what's in this one? Or do you want what's in this one? And you know, they're looking at me like what in the world are you doing? Talking about. And all I say is the, you know, if Would you would you pick the one that is completely open that you see is nothing has nothing in it? Or do you pick the one that's closed, and you don't know what's in it, but you do know that it can't be worse than what's in the other hand that's open, it's not going to be a negative thing. It's not going to hurt you, it can only be good or nothing. Which hand would you pick? Obviously, any sane rational person would pick the one, that's the closed hand, it's the unknown, we don't know what it is. Well, we can relate that to shooting by saying that, if you choose to hold on to the shot, you're picking the Open hand, because we know that that's going to net in a worse result, over time. And over a high amount of attempts at doing that, we know that it's worse. But we also know that it's something it's not an unknown, because we get to see what it is we get to see the shot happen, we know what where it is, and we feel comfortable in that. So we we we don't allow ourselves to be free and pull the trigger without having awareness of the gun. Because that's scary. That closed hand is scary because we don't know but it can't be worse than nothing. So you might as well pull the trigger during the unknown and before you can consciously verify that what you're doing is correct because we know that that's better and we know it's not going to result in worse than a miss so that's how I logically deduce that
David Radulovich
03:42:04yeah, Nate says in my experience even without eye dominance issues seeing the gun is a bad thing 100% Mom and dad love that yeah, toddler is an awesome artists got some great songs. Really cool unique voice and plays a guitar really well. Okay, cool. Schroedinger say yeah, pretty much man. I'm sorry guys. My like I'm my head is so far ahead of my words right now for this whole podcast. I don't know why. And so I'm having a hard time communicating things fluently. It's just the ADHD acting up, but I apologize. So thank you guys for sticking with me on it.
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